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Post #196,482 by Andrew Grygus 2/27/05 1:55:55 AM Reply	Well, yeah . . . The tech stuff is easy because most digitals do it all for you anyway - whether you want them to or not (and you can fix their mistakes (most of the time, but not all of the time with your graphics program (PMView in my case) but yellowed whites are a bitch and a half). No more balancing film speed vs f-stops and depth of field or creative cheating. You point the thing in the right direction and press the button and that's it. Now if you're an artiste, the "right direction" is by nature and will produce ART - even if you're using a Brownie box camera. If you're not, you'll get crap with a high end Leica, Bronica or Nikon. Therefore: the only thing to study is composition and style. If you have to study it, you aren't an artiste (and not a single artiste will own up to the decades of study it took), but can play one on TV. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #196,487 by drewk 2/27/05 3:36:19 AM Reply	I assume you meant "if you still have to study it" There's art, and there's good pictures. I can take good pictures, and I once studied how. It's actually a very teachable skill: fill the frame, don't center the subject[1], put the sun behind you instead of the subject, etc. For the majority of people who have never really thought about the "rules" of composition, it's incredibly easy to get significant improvement. [1] Wha? That's right: Don't center the subject. Most candid snapshots are of people. Put the faces in the center of the frame and you'll have two inches of uninteresting background above their heads every time. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #196,538 by Andrew Grygus 2/27/05 1:08:31 PM Reply	No - it was sarcasm referring to . . . . the tendancy of "artistes" to "forget" all the years of study (by book, by imitation and by trial and error) that lead to their skill which they now claim as a natural talent. Of course, at the top end the natural talent certainly does come to play. Leonardo da Vinci (a certified genius) defined genius as "being able to do easily what others can not do at all". In contrast, Thomas Edison, a person of distinctly lesser genius but with a tremendous talent for marketing and exploiting the work of others, defined it as "one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration". [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #196,626 by Steven A S 2/28/05 12:05:55 PM Reply	Believe it or not with the digital SLRs you can actually set the "film speed". There is an ISO setting on mine from ISO 100 to 1600 (up to 3000 with a firmware upgrade). Just like with film, the higher the ISO, the grainier the picture. You also get all the control if you want it of the shutter speed and aperture so you get creative control of the DoF/stop motion. I took a photography class in high school, but that was over 20 years ago; so it's time for me to relearn everything :) ~~~)-Steven---- "I want you to remember that no bastard ever won a war by dying for his country. He won it by making the other poor dumb bastard die for his country..." General George S. Patton
Post #196,641 by folkert 2/28/05 12:53:41 PM Reply	The Pentax I bought allows ISO settings too. As well as shutter speed and so on. The one I bought has so much crap in it, even I'll never use all of it. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* [link\|http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=134485&cid=11233230\|"Microsoft Security" is an even better oxymoron than "Military Intelligence"] No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link\|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp\|source]
Post #196,643 by pwhysall 2/28/05 12:58:49 PM Reply	Heh, me too. Mine has f-stops and ISO from 80 to 400, whatever THAT is. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!

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