Thread makes sense re pop.. but as to Classical

Post #195,494 by Ashton 2/19/05 4:54:00 AM Reply	Thread makes sense re pop.. but as to Classical Given the expense of a symphony orchestra, soloists, possibly singers / chorus etc: the scheme doesn't work. Perhaps some aspect could, though; something new has to be found - for the survival of orchestras in Murica. (As with Science.. as we become middle-men, importers of anything crafted.. all from Elsewhere.) Classical is hardly the province of the elite, though regular season tickets are more costly than rock.. for those close-enough to attend. 'Records' have, all-along been the means for hearing virtuoso performances by the masses. (Still alive for the purists, losing ground as the convenience of CDs wins.) Should the medium/genre be wiped out via more digital- 'Economy' (and reduced in dynamic range and fidelity to that of mp3) well, such a thing is clearly possible in Murica.. quite less likely I'd guess, in Europe and elsewhere. We are, after all the clucking is clucked: Masters of the Disposable Everything (including lately, of course - our 'Honor') Scary thought though -- that it's even possible to imagine now, that techno + 90-day fads might just become the only sound sources available, except by import (too). Musical Armageddon too? Why not..
Post #195,533 by tuberculosis 2/19/05 1:46:39 PM 2/19/05 1:52:11 PM Reply	dupe &^%$#@ "broadband" provider "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Feb. 19, 2005, 01:52:11 PM EST Expand All History
Post #195,534 by tuberculosis 2/19/05 1:49:21 PM Reply	But it is the old classical model of patronage and subscription. All the great composers struggled with this at some time or other. Its the same model - only now done through a website. I think it can work if the patrons are willing to support it. "Whenever you find you are on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect" --Mark Twain "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #195,580 by Arkadiy 2/19/05 9:13:36 PM Reply	Stamford Symphonic Orchestra is supported 50% by charity. I think that's the only way, and it was ever so. People who want to be seen as cultured pay money for culture, whether they are Curfursts or local real estate moguls. -- - I was involuntarily self-promoted into management. [link\|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484\|Richard Stallman]
Post #195,635 by CRConrad 2/20/05 3:43:39 PM Reply	For the rest of you: Ger. "Kurf\ufffdrst" = Eng. "Prince-Elector"
Post #195,621 by drewk 2/20/05 2:25:03 PM Reply	Why should music be different? Have you ever seen a castle? Pretty impressive, isn't it? Expensive as hell, too. And only possible in a society where at least a few people have ridiculously more than their "fair share" of resources. The robber barons built castles around the turn of the century. I once toured Hearst Castle in San Simeon. The indoor pool with alabaster lights, gold leaf, marble tile ... simply amazing. But no one can afford to own it. When Hearst split his estate among his children, none of them could afford the maintenance on it. Now that it's a museum, the state barely makes enough on tour fees to keep it from deteriorating worse than it already has. So what's this have to do with music? The robber barons kept a lot of craftsmen busy for a lot of years working on their places. Then the U.S. passed anti-monopoly laws. The market for alabaster carvers went way down. Sure, I'd like to see some nice sculpture, but if there aren't wealthy patrons, no one can afford to learn the trade. And sure, I like orchestral music. I hope wealthy patrons keep liking it, too. Because I sure as hell can't afford to pay a couple of hundred people to dedicate their lives to it. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #195,880 by Ashton 2/22/05 2:14:12 AM Reply	In a Capitalist kultur EVERYTHING comes down to the price tag. Of things. And Everything IS a Thing. Spreadsheetable. As to what music is ""worth"" - Which is worth preserving -?- and at What "cost", within The Profit Motive model: Muricans. Will. Find. Out. cha ch Palaces? Music?? Ummm OK why not Wienerschitzel

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