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Post #191,910 by ben_tilly 1/27/05 8:35:55 AM Reply	Give your current employer a chance to better the offer They may surprise you. :-) Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #191,913 by bluke 1/27/05 8:54:17 AM 1/27/05 9:03:04 AM Reply	The advice I always heard was never accept a counteroffer. See [link\|http://www.4nextstep.com/coffer.htm\|Ten Reasons for Not Accepting a Counter Offer], [link\|http://www.coloradosearch.com/counteroffer.html\|Never Accept a Counteroffer] and many more stories. Basically, it doesn't work. In any case, it is not just the money (although I am getting a large raise), the new job is a much better one in terms of technology and responsibility. Edited by bluke Jan. 27, 2005, 09:03:04 AM EST Expand All History
Post #191,915 by bepatient 1/27/05 8:55:19 AM Reply	Same advice I've been given. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #191,934 by pwhysall 1/27/05 9:56:21 AM Reply	Yeah, I'd go with that. Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #191,945 by Yendor 1/27/05 10:49:15 AM Reply	Agreed 100% -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #192,065 by ben_tilly 1/28/05 2:25:17 AM Reply	Thanks, I learned something I retract my bad advice which was based on a passing thought. I've only once been in a position where I was quitting and was offered a counteroffer. I was rather uninclined to take it. (And didn't.) But that was for other reasons. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #191,923 by broomberg 1/27/05 9:27:21 AM Reply	NO! While it MAY work out, the odds are vastly against you. You are no longer "loyal", you have already extorted money from them, you will never be trusted again. Your boss' job (no matter how "nice" he is) is to transfer your responsibilities to someone else and then cause you enough pain to make you want to leave. Do NOT leave on his terms, leave on yours.

Switching jobs, ethical issue - (bluke) - (20) - Jan. 27, 2005, 02:06:20 AM EST

Tough to leave - (bluke) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 06:25:07 AM EST

Here's the thing about company loyalty. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:05:29 AM EST

You are absolutely right - (bluke) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:31:22 AM EST

make sure... - (bepatient) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 06:59:54 AM EST

Actually the money is deposited electronically ... - (bluke) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:27:58 AM EST

The bonus is based on past performance. - (Another Scott) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 07:37:26 AM EST

Thanks for the answer -NT - (bluke) - Jan. 27, 2005, 08:11:05 AM EST

Give your current employer a chance to better the offer - (ben_tilly) - (6) - Jan. 27, 2005, 08:35:55 AM EST

The advice I always heard - (bluke) - (4) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:03:04 AM EST

Same advice I've been given. -NT - (bepatient) - Jan. 27, 2005, 08:55:19 AM EST

Yeah, I'd go with that. -NT - (pwhysall) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:56:21 AM EST

Agreed 100% -NT - (Yendor) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:49:15 AM EST

Thanks, I learned something - (ben_tilly) - Jan. 28, 2005, 02:25:17 AM EST

NO! - (broomberg) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:27:21 AM EST

The clock is ticking. - (ChrisR) - Jan. 27, 2005, 09:42:48 AM EST

TAKE THE MONEY! -NT - (folkert) - Jan. 27, 2005, 10:10:14 AM EST

As numerous job counselors have said to me - (lincoln) - (2) - Jan. 27, 2005, 01:47:26 PM EST

Ooh, you're a sad man. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Jan. 27, 2005, 02:50:08 PM EST

real lame, dude - (lincoln) - Jan. 30, 2005, 09:44:34 PM EST

Its your bonus for work completed - (daemon) - Jan. 27, 2005, 06:31:04 PM EST

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