Re: because I don't believe

Post #191,837 by Nightowl 1/26/05 10:22:10 PM Reply	Re: because I don't believe that fad diets help cancer? Truly, there were good and bad things about 'the good old days' - but in the end, they were just days. Days are what you make them. If you want to defend all the progress we've made since 'then' to 'now', that's fine. "Yeah, and y'all are keeling over of cancer" just sounds like sour grapes, though. Well, as someone who is currently watching a relative suffer from cancer, the bottom line is it didn't matter if you were from back then or from here now, smoking was bad for your health... and this particular uncle not only smoked for years, (yes, he's recently been trying to quit, way too late), but he also worked in a chemical plant that he was warned would do damage to his lungs. I know cancer isn't always predictable or always preventable, but there are certain things one can do to lessen the risk, such as not pollute their lungs with smoking residue. Granted, back then the risk wasn't as publicized, and much more is known today. So now if you choose the routes that are suspected to lead to cancer, knowing the risks, you should expect to face the consequences. Brenda "The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
Post #191,848 by daemon 1/26/05 10:58:41 PM Reply	cancer is simply evolution just down a bad track. Broken cells multiply at an alarming rate eventually killing the host. The fact that we have more cancer these days is the effect of a longer lifespan in most cases. Earlier in the century people died of other foreign infections, cancer is what happens after you survive life. regards, daemon Anyone who has passed through the regular gradations of a classical education, and is not made a fool by it, may consider himself as having had a very narrow escape: Samuel Butler clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #191,942 by Andrew Grygus 1/27/05 10:35:00 AM 1/27/05 1:47:27 PM Reply	Not entirely, by any means. Living longer is not really the point. The average lifespan was very low because of early deaths, but if you made it to 30 your chances of making it to 80 were not that different from today. Something has changed because cancer and heart disease were once rather rare in America. Exactly what changes have caused these diseases to increase so is what we don't know. There is a correlation with the rise in consumption of unsaturated vegetable oils and particularly hydrogenated vegetable oils (trans fats, previously used only for soap), but proof of cause / effect is lacking. Even at the American Heart Association's kick-off event for their "Heart Healthy Diet", one of the older physicians invited said he doubted the research. He said early in his career the American diet was everything the Heart Association said was bad - yet he saw almost no cases of either cancer or congestive heart disease. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx] Edited by Andrew Grygus Jan. 27, 2005, 01:47:27 PM EST Expand All History
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