Post #190,642
1/18/05 5:53:07 PM
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Are you willfully missing the point(s)
or just a tad dense?
We all know: yes Virginia - there ARE assholes in the world.
And there are religions and the religious and the non- anti- or simply separate-from the entire existential Question.
Is a 'Christian asshole' somehow more nefarious? more reprehensible than say, your local panhandler umm.. the one with the Porsche parked around the corner:
(merely for being, occasionally - more unctuous and smugly self-satisfied? for being Certain of that which can never Be-'Certain' within flighty impressionable homosap jelloware? For 'glorying' in the pun-ishment of all those 'Others' who Are Wrong Wrong / Cause I Be Righteous?)
Seems to be a personal matter there, in assignment of relative annoyance factors. Matter of taste, training, ed-ja-Kay-shun and other overlays, I suppose. Maybe even DNA - or what kinda Gramma you had??
But what one Cannot say -at the least- about the non-religio [asshole or demi-asshole] is:
The tendency to turn human judgments into divine commands makes religion one of the most dangerous forces in the world.
-- Georgia Harkness in "Conflicts in Religious Thought"
and especially,
Men never do evil so completely and cheerfully as when they do it from religious conviction.
-- Blaise Pascal
And who am I to argue with such as these - I guess that being a 'Christian asshole' does *indeed* magnify, extend ---> even transmogrify the simple concept, asshole
Perhaps conjuring even the veritable antipode of (to coin a phrase)
How do I love thee? Let me count the ways.
I love thee to the depth and breadth and height
My soul can reach, when feeling out of sight
For the ends of Being and ideal Grace.
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HTH
I Who Be
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Post #190,643
1/18/05 6:04:10 PM
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Pascal is certainly out -of-date
20th century poved that evil is just as cheerfully done for the sake of "radiant future" and for the sake of "the Nation".
And it does not take "divine command" to turn "human judgement" into an instrument of mass murder.
Any other basis for singling out the religion?
Yes, religious assholes are assholes. The problem is, there are other holey sources. And, of course, another proble is that some people just forget to say "asshole" and simply say "religious".
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- I was involuntarily self-promoted into management.
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Post #190,678
1/18/05 7:50:47 PM
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Heard on the radio tonight
An American is trying to buy Manchester United. The local fans are ... shall we say, displeased with the thought. Asked what the team means to them, two of the five interviewed said following the Red Devils was a religion. Then the reporter mentioned the couple of times fans have burned an American flag after a game to protest the potential sale.
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Post #190,680
1/18/05 7:58:57 PM
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Me?
Mmmhmm. I guess so. I don't evaluate/badmouth/denigrate people by religion. I must be dense. "merely for being, occasionally - more unctuous and smugly self-satisfied? for being Certain of that which can never Be-'Certain' within flighty impressionable homosap jelloware?" And you don't place yourself squarely in the middle of this set? And I'm dense? "But what one Cannot say -at the least- about the non-religio" HORSECRAP. NOW HEAR THIS. NOW HEAR THIS. EVERY STATEMENT YOU QUOTE IS APPLICABLE TO THE WORD "IDEOLOGY".That is all. [link|http://forfree.sytes.net|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #190,688
1/18/05 9:31:19 PM
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We jelloware users are accustomed to strife.
My ideology, you say?
OK:
Everything we 'Know!!-fershure' is false.. except maybe the trivial stuff like F=MA.
You are not talking to just anyone's fool; I am a Fully-licensed jelloware lessee! on the EZ-payment Plan. This is decidedly primitive lo-bid wetware; read the Consumer Reports review.
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Post #190,708
1/18/05 10:30:20 PM
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Quod Erat Demonstrandum.
[link|http://forfree.sytes.net|
] Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #190,733
1/19/05 2:50:31 AM
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Ooh - you speak French!
"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein
"This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
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Post #190,782
1/19/05 11:59:00 AM
1/19/05 11:59:36 AM
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Oops, forgot the redirect
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Edited by drewk
Jan. 19, 2005, 11:59:36 AM EST
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Post #190,784
1/19/05 11:59:26 AM
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ICLRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #190783 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=190783|ICLRPD]
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