Best way to learn Java?

Post #189,482 by drewk 1/9/05 1:24:55 PM Reply	Best way to learn Java? I still see more listings for Java developers than anything else[1]. So I've decided to start learning it. Any good tutorials to start with? And what should I install here to be able to do it? [1] Except "Microsoft Developer", which, considering that would mean three or more completely different languages over time, doesn't really mean anything. And I don't want to do that anyway. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #189,486 by broomberg 1/9/05 1:55:35 PM Reply	Study the Sybex book Complete Java\ufffd 2 Certification Study Guide, 4th Edition Really. Run through it 1/2 a dozen times before you start on the computer itself. Do NOT read a chapter, do some exercises. read another, do some more, etc. Study the book first for quite a while, end to end. And then start going through the exercises. Take the tests at the end of each chapter. Multiple times. Until you have internalized the WHY things are a certain way, as well a WHAT. At the same time, work the the "Core" Java series from PTR/PH-Sun publishing.
Post #189,496 by drewk 1/9/05 2:20:30 PM Reply	That's odd The [link\|http://www.sybex.com/sybexbooks.nsf/booklist/4077?OpenDocument\|original] lists for $59.99, online for $15. The [link\|http://www.sybex.com/sybexbooks.nsf/booklist/4276?OpenDocument\|4th Editition] lists for $49.99, online for $39.99. I think I'll try the library first in any case. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #189,497 by broomberg 1/9/05 3:00:26 PM Reply	Nothing odd about it Prices drop. Original publication price was when Java was HOT. Later publication prices are in a more competitive market. But the most recent one is still more relevant, so its current selling price is more than the older one, even though the older one started at a higher price.
Post #189,489 by daemon 1/9/05 2:01:46 PM Reply	get a gig supporting a java app :-) that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #189,505 by Yendor 1/9/05 4:38:30 PM Reply	Book, web site Book: [link\|http://www.bookpool.com/.x/tem4gs4ky1/sm/0596004656\|Head First Java]. Web Site: [link\|http://www.JavaJunkies.org/\|http://www.JavaJunkies.org/] -- Perl Monks for Java Heads. As I announced just before Christmas, [link\|http://www.javajunkies.org/index.pl?node_id=4107\|I'm taking over this month]. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #189,507 by Another Scott 1/9/05 4:45:16 PM Reply	Verrry interesting. Thanks for the link and the news. Luck!
Post #189,539 by drewk 1/9/05 10:09:10 PM 1/9/05 10:29:21 PM Reply	/me kicks self I knew I should have paid more attention to the work on the new backend. This is (was) the project I should have tried ot learn on, seeing as I already know the problem space somewhat. Well, I guess it's never too late to start ... [edit] So, what do I need to install to start playing? Is there a debian package that will get everything I need, or am I better off getting it direct from Sun? And are there tools that would help get up the learning curve, or am I better learning it from a text editor from the start? === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com] Edited by drewk Jan. 9, 2005, 10:29:21 PM EST Expand All History
Post #189,546 by Yendor 1/9/05 11:00:43 PM Reply	Re: /me kicks self [edit] So, what do I need to install to start playing? Is there a debian package that will get everything I need, or am I better off getting it direct from Sun? And are there tools that would help get up the learning curve, or am I better learning it from a text editor from the start? Check out [link\|http://www.javajunkies.org/index.pl?node_id=4117\|this node on JJ] for a quick assist on getting Sun's Java 1.5 installed on your Debian box. For learning Java stuff, I recommend using your commandline and text editor until you're comfortable with how to create and compile classes, packages, etc. Run 'em a few times, and make sure you have everything down pat. Then, if you want, switch to an IDE. I use NetBeans, and I've used Eclipse in the past. Scott's gotten me interested in checking out (I think it was) IDEA. Sounded interesting. -YendorMike "They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." - Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #189,559 by Arkadiy 1/10/05 9:14:44 AM Reply	Go read the language definition and browse the API docs. Dry, but quite sufficient. And free. -- - I was involuntarily self-promoted into management. [link\|http://kerneltrap.org/node/4484\|Richard Stallman]
Post #189,574 by ChrisR 1/10/05 11:13:44 AM Reply	If free is the object Then just download the the jdk/sdk from Sun and get the book [link\|http://www.mindview.net/Books/TIJ/\|Thinking in Java].
Post #189,595 by mmoffitt 1/10/05 12:19:42 PM Reply	Does that come w/a free prescription for Prozac? ;-) bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
Post #189,618 by ChrisR 1/10/05 3:04:07 PM Reply	Nope. That's how they make their money. :-)
Post #189,665 by mmoffitt 1/10/05 9:00:15 PM Reply	:0) bcnu, Mikem Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer. (Just trying to be accepted in the New America)

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