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New If you don't much care for facts...
I wonder if you have an alternative in mind?

You can't have a discussion without something to discuss. Are you suggesting we discuss mere opinions? Opinions are meaningless in a vacuum. Yes, mine too.

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Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
New Facts are important too,
in issues - especially where there are contradictory versions. But once an issue is defined, then next, most often what is needed - is some insight into the issue. Often that is about - what homo-saps often do in ____ situations.

Offhand I see little place for further facts at that stage - and damn little about Winning, either. Thus I don't understand your preoccupation with facts - since no one ever could hear all of those; we always decide upon ~insufficient data. Or never decide at all.


A.
     Give Tribunals a Try - (marlowe) - (29)
         Fascism: Not as bad as you've been led to believe. - (Brandioch) - (23)
             In the midst of this incoherent rant, one interesting bit... - (marlowe) - (22)
                 Incoherent to you. - (Brandioch) - (21)
                     It's not you - it's an incompatable .dll issue. - (inthane-chan) - (11)
                         :) - (Brandioch)
                         Facile dismissals from the peanut gallery? - (marlowe) - (9)
                             Perhaps you didn't read what I wrote. - (inthane-chan) - (8)
                                 No. Factual data points are cites of news articles. - (marlowe) - (7)
                                     Everyone needs something to believe in - (Silverlock)
                                     WTF? - (Brandioch)
                                     You raise some good points... - (inthane-chan) - (4)
                                         Okay, fair enough. - (marlowe) - (3)
                                             Sorry but.. (again) - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                 If you don't much care for facts... - (marlowe) - (1)
                                                     Facts are important too, - (Ashton)
                     Re: Incoherent to you. - (Steven A S) - (8)
                         You're partially correct. - (Brandioch) - (7)
                             Sounds reasonable to me - (drewk) - (5)
                                 Which brings us full circle. - (Brandioch) - (4)
                                     On the effect of propoganda - (drewk) - (3)
                                         You're shifting focus. - (Brandioch) - (2)
                                             You left out a few parts from the analogy - (drewk) - (1)
                                                 Think about that. - (Brandioch)
                             Re: You're partially correct. - (Steven A S)
         Interesting. Falls apart quickly though. - (Silverlock)
         Secret tribunals for non american citizens no prob until - (boxley) - (1)
             Finally something resembling an actual point. - (marlowe)
         WashPost - Mallaby OpEd - (Another Scott) - (1)
             Thanks - a memorable triumph of reason over 'facts' - (Ashton)

This is starting to sound like and invasion of "Them!". EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-EE-krrrrrk-ick-ick-ick-ka-ka-ka. Sheesh!
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