Okay, fair enough.
I know what insomnia is like. But I'd forgotten you were a sufferer. I'd have been a lot less confrontational otherwise. Apologies and regrets for that. As for time pressure, I have a different way of dealing with that. I choose subjects where the facts are readily at hand, and pass on discussions of other topics.
But a couple of points:
1. This is a topic where data points can be had just by perusing the news and commentary sites, then perhaps following up with Google. It's a bit exceptional in that regard, but there it is.
2. I only call something incoherent if it does not, in fact, cohere. Bad sentence structure, excessive use of glittering generalizations, a smokescreen of emotionally freighted adjectives, and the repeated failure to link conclusion to premise in any fashion, all are symptoms of a lack of coherency. And when any or all these things are in abundant evidence, I say "incoherent rant" because that's precisely what it is. To ask one to explain "why this is an incoherent rant" is like insisting on an explanation of why two plus two must equal four, or just what basis has someone got for telling you that your fly is unzipped. The obvious is not only factual in itself, but is a starting point to finding the non-obvious truths. If you can't admit and acknowledge the obvious, how can you ever get anywhere in the neighborhood of truth?
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Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
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marlowe
Nov. 19, 2001, 09:17:54 PM EST
Okay, fair enough.
I know what insomnia is like. But I'd forgotten you were a sufferer. I'd have you cut you a lot more slack otherwise. Apologies and regrets for that. As for time pressure, I have a different way of dealing with that. I choose subjects where the facts are readily at hand, and pass on discussions of other topics.
But a couple of points:
1. This is a topic where data points can be had just by perusing the news and commentary sites, then perhaps following up with Google. It's a bit exceptional in that regard, but there it is.
2. I only call something incoherent if it does not, in fact, cohere. Bad sentence structure, excessive use of glittering generalizations, a smokescreen of emotionally freighted adjectives, and the repeated failure to link conclusion to premise in any fashion, all are symptoms of a lack of coherency. And when any or all these things are in abundant evidence, I say "incoherent rant" because that's precisely what it is. To ask one to explain "why this is an incoherent rant" is like insisting on an explanation of why two plus two must equal four, or just what basis has someone got for telling you that your fly is unzipped. The obvious is not only factual in itself, but is a starting point to finding the non-obvious truths. If you can't admit and acknowledge the obvious, how can you ever get anywhere in the neighborhood of truth?
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Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
