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Post #188,400 by Nightowl 12/28/04 2:24:16 PM Reply	I wondered too But I didn't comment because earthquakes are something thing I try not to discuss... too scary. But I agree, it was terrible and I am praying for all of the victims and survivors. Brenda "The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
Post #188,407 by Andrew Grygus 12/28/04 2:54:30 PM Reply	Earthquakes scary? Our own East Coast is supposed to be wiped out by an underwater mudslide on some island the name of which I've forgotten. Earthquakes kill a few people. Waves kill everyone. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #188,409 by inthane-chan 12/28/04 2:58:41 PM Reply	You'd love the Puget Sound... Apparently the next big earthquake up here will turn the sound into some kind of reflection chamber, sending gigantic tidal waves north and south through the whole Puget Sound basin. "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #188,427 by ben_tilly 12/28/04 7:33:54 PM Reply	It gets worse There is an earthquake as big as the one that just hit sitting just off the coast. [link\|http://www.em.gov.bc.ca/Mining/Geolsurv/Surficial/quake/eq4.htm\|http://www.em.gov.bc...ial/quake/eq4.htm] [link\|http://www.pgc.nrcan.gc.ca/seismo/hist/1700.htm\|http://www.pgc.nrcan...smo/hist/1700.htm] [link\|http://www.pnsn.org/HAZARDS/CASCADIA/cascadia_event.html\|http://www.pnsn.org/...scadia_event.html] However our current best guess is that the next one is 100-300 years off. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #188,433 by tuberculosis 12/28/04 8:01:36 PM Reply	Bring it on I'm ready. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush
Post #188,450 by FuManChu 12/29/04 1:51:51 AM Reply	Riiiiiight. Indonesia, India, and Sri Lanka spend $0 and lose 50,000 plus. Therefore, western Washington should spend billions to prevent a recurrence of the 2 deaths we had from the last "killer tsunami". I'm all for paranoia, but not the anthropomorphization of nature.
Post #188,471 by inthane-chan 12/29/04 10:45:39 AM Reply	Hey, did I say spend $$$? Just mentioning the possibility. Quite frankly, the next big one over here in Seattle == lotsa dead people. The only part up for argument is how those people are going to die. Yeah, I love living here. :P "Here at Ortillery Command we have at our disposal hundred megawatt laser beams, mach 20 titanium rods and guided thermonuclear bombs. Some people say we think that we're God. We're not God. We just borrowed his 'SMITE' button for our fire control system."
Post #188,502 by ben_tilly 12/29/04 3:39:36 PM Reply	Sorry, but that argument is stupid Indonesia, India, and Sri Lanka saw repeated tsunamis in the Pacific Ocean and didn't pay attention to the fact that it could happen there. So they suffered major loss of life. What you're saying is for us to notice, "Hey, that kind of disaster sucks, it can happen here, let's do something about it!" is trivializing what happened there. That's stupid. This is not a mountains to molehills comparison. The earthquake waiting off of the coast in the Pacific Northwest is as big or bigger than the one that let go in Thailand. When it last let go in 1700 there was catastrophic (according to the size of populations around then) loss of life both locally and internationally. (Japan in particular has excellent records of the disaster.) There are a lot more people present now, and the expected loss of life is correspondingly higher the next time round. If the expected loss of life is lower than with this tsunami, that is because population densities are not as high as in places like Sri Lanka. You appear to be saying that we shouldn't try to do anything about this. I'm not entirely sure what your reasoning is. I'm not entirely sure that you have any real reasoning for that. Regards, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #188,580 by jake123 12/30/04 2:43:31 PM Reply	For reference when the 1700 earthquake was analyzed, based both on Japanese records and physical evidence on the west coast of Canada, they estimate that the size of the tsunami was well over 10m when it came ashore in BC. Victoria would probably pretty much disappear. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #188,410 by pwhysall 12/28/04 3:03:03 PM Reply	La Palma [link\|http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,3604,1279710,00.html\|http://www.guardian....4,1279710,00.html] Peter [link\|http://www.ubuntulinux.org\|Ubuntu Linux] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Home] Use P2P for legitimate purposes!
Post #188,420 by Another Scott 12/28/04 5:06:58 PM Reply	Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma [link\|http://www.huttoncommentaries.com/ECNews/GntWavesHitAtlantic.html\|Here]: Dr Simon Day, of the Benfield Greig Hazard Research Centre at University College London, UK, believes one flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries archipelago, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean. Swiss researchers who have modelled the landslide say half a trillion tonnes of rock falling into the water all at once would create a wave 650 metres high (2,130 feet) that would spread out and travel across the Atlantic at high speed. The wall of water would weaken as it crossed the ocean, but would still be 40-50 metres (130-160 feet) high by the time it hit land. The surge would create havoc in North America as much as 20 kilometre (12 miles) inland. [...] The largest wave in recorded history, witnessed in Alaska in 1958, was caused by the collapse of a towering cliff at Letuya Bay. The resulting wave was higher than any skyscraper on Earth and gouged out soil and trees to a height of 500 metres (1,640) feet) above sea level. [...] That's a big wave. Of course, the East Coast is also at risk from tsunamis from [link\|http://www.manythings.org/voa/00/000602er_t.htm\|underwater landslides] caused by huge amounts of methane [link\|http://marine.usgs.gov/fact-sheets/gas-hydrates/title.html\|gas hydrates].... Cheers, Scott.
Post #188,475 by drewk 12/29/04 12:13:20 PM Reply	Two guys rode that wave A father and son were in a fishing boar in Letuya Bay. They heard the noise and looked to the head of the bay. When they saw the wave, they said their goodbyes to each other then grabbed the rails. Their boat rose like a cork on the sea, snapped the anchor chain like a thread, and topped the crest. Then they settled back down behind the wave and watched it go out to sea. Not something most people would do out purpose, but what a thing to have experienced. === Purveyor of Doc Hope's [link\|http://DocHope.com\|fresh-baked dog biscuits and pet treats]. [link\|http://DocHope.com\|http://DocHope.com]
Post #188,438 by Nightowl 12/28/04 9:16:01 PM Reply	Why they are scary I'm gonna say this once to explain. They are scarier to me than any other disaster or weather phenomenon because there is nowhere to hide or get away to not feel the effect. Brenda "The people of the world having once been deceived, suspect deceit in truth itself." -- Hitopadesa 600?-1100? AD, Sanskrit Fable From Panchatantr
Post #188,455 by Ashton 12/29/04 4:28:39 AM Reply	Ah I see.. sorta like the Bush Admin, then.
Post #188,488 by scoenye 12/29/04 1:38:00 PM Reply	La Palma One of the Canary islands off the African coast. There is a north-south fault line straight through the island. The western half can let go at any (geological) minute.

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