Post #187,947
12/23/04 11:37:59 AM
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At this point, you may as well flip a coin
No way you can count 2.5 million votes with such precision.
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Post #187,958
12/23/04 1:10:28 PM
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Sure you can
It helps if they're all actually little pieces of paper with circles that a voter can put an X into, though.
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Post #187,976
12/23/04 3:25:53 PM
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What he said.
bcnu,
Mikem
Eine Leute. Eine Welt. Ein F\ufffdhrer.
(Just trying to be accepted in the New America)
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Post #188,009
12/23/04 6:17:24 PM
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but they put a check mark or circled it instead
circled, checked and x'ed the name while leaving the circle to the right untouched, do they count? Count for whom?
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #188,025
12/23/04 8:04:03 PM
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They don't count
That's called a spoiled ballot.
The incidence of those is pretty low, ime (I've counted ballots in four elections). My personal fave was the one where they guy wrote along the bottom "I think you all suck."
Still didn't count, though. The rules are clear, and are clearly posted; if you want your ballot to count, put the X in the circle. Point final.
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Post #188,035
12/23/04 9:13:45 PM
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see here we have a law "the intent of the voter"
that wouldnt fly at all and was the point of all the lawsuits. If you dont count those ballots you are disenfrachising black voters, (in the majority of cases).
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
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Post #188,071
12/24/04 2:30:33 AM
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Dunno 'bout that
but generally speaking, the "black" folks up here (who are mostly from South Asia) don't seem to have huge problems marking ballots correctly.
You should come up, get your citizenship, and try scrutineering for one of the parties. You'd see how it actually works in the Real World.
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Post #188,079
12/24/04 8:28:09 AM
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Actually, that's Florida only....
and it's based on case law. (An interesting case, btw...especially if you think 10 votes is a small amount)
In any case, Florida isn't Washington...different rules apply.
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Post #188,109
12/24/04 2:26:02 PM
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Yes. We have those little pieces of paper...
Everyone is crazy about them. We call them "dollars" :)
It would be interesting to know what are standard accounting practices when dealing with $2.5 mln cash at the point of sale. Do bookkeepers require prescise accounting? Or some of it is allowed to go missing and is written off?
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Q. I think I need to see a specialist, but my doctor insists he can handle my problem. Can a general practitioner really perform a heart transplant right in his/her office?
A. Hard to say, but considering that all you're risking is the $20 co-payment, there's no harm in giving it a shot.
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Post #188,136
12/25/04 9:06:58 AM
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Based on my cash handling experience
Down to the penny.
I was in charge of the check disbursing section for the US Army in Europe. Monthly expenditures had to balance to the penny.
Also in charge of the cash vault, funded military (US) banks in Europe. Also had to balance to the penny. One time, just after receiving a cash resupply shipment (3 milvans == 40' trailers) of coins, we had a surprise cash count. We were off in the count in the vault. I had to move every box (22"x11"x7", ~70#) until I found which boxes were stacked in the wrong place (Each box was coded with contents - penny/nickel/dime/quarter - paper money boxes balanced). 5 hours and 3000 boxes later, the vault balanced.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #188,141
12/25/04 12:10:20 PM
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That's the general attitude of accountants everywhere.
Remember, a hacker/spy ring in East Germany was busted because someone in the Western U.S. found his accounts out of balance by $0.01 and investigated why.
[link|http://www.aaxnet.com|AAx]
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Post #188,142
12/25/04 12:20:12 PM
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You're talking about bulk cash
pre-packaged and labeled. At least you had to shift boxes, not count individual coins. I am mostly wondering about POS experience, where you (may) have "give-a-penny-take-a-penny" bin. But thanks for your data point.
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Q. I think I need to see a specialist, but my doctor insists he can handle my problem. Can a general practitioner really perform a heart transplant right in his/her office?
A. Hard to say, but considering that all you're risking is the $20 co-payment, there's no harm in giving it a shot.
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