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New So how does that change your answer?
And I'm mainly interested to see if you have any suggestions for automated functionality.

But if we were to do #1, there's still the issue of me authenticating requests for password changes (if I'm doing the changing) or email snooping if I'm resetting and sending a new one.

There's also option #4 at the end of the thread.
Regards,

-scott anderson

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Collapse Edited by admin Nov. 30, 2004, 04:48:36 PM EST
So how does that change your answer?
Regards,

-scott anderson

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     zIWT meta: Which is better: - (admin) - (66)
         3) -NT - (mmoffitt)
         1) - (jb4) - (3)
             Not for long, at least... -NT - (admin) - (2)
                 Is that a threat?!? -NT - (jb4) - (1)
                     You should know by now... - (admin)
         3, with verification - (Arkadiy) - (29)
             Seconded. -NT - (Yendor)
             NO - (FuManChu) - (27)
                 Er, buh? - (admin) - (3)
                     That's enough of a detriment not to warrant the risk IMO -NT - (FuManChu) - (2)
                         ? -NT - (admin) - (1)
                             ?? -NT - (drewk)
                 Yeah - (Yendor) - (11)
                     How is that insecure? - (FuManChu) - (2)
                         You're unclear on this. - (admin) - (1)
                             See below. -NT - (FuManChu)
                     You only need one field labeled "Hint" - (tuberculosis) - (7)
                         Sure... - (Yendor) - (6)
                             Bah. - (admin)
                             Not quite - (FuManChu) - (4)
                                 And my point is... - (Yendor) - (3)
                                     I have a standard formula I use for passwords. - (folkert) - (2)
                                         I also have a standard formula - (daemon) - (1)
                                             Ding, Ding, Ding. - (folkert)
                 It's only insecure if the user is allowed to proceed - (imric) - (10)
                     Bah. Risk is the issue. - (FuManChu) - (9)
                         So what's YOUR suggestion? -NT - (admin) - (4)
                             Unfortunately for you #1 ;) - (FuManChu) - (3)
                                 WTF? - (admin) - (2)
                                     Sorry. You're right. I didn't read carefully. - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                         So how does that change your answer? - (admin)
                         Same risk than we have now during login. - (imric) - (2)
                             Same outcome, different risk--the attack surface has doubled -NT - (FuManChu)
                             Not mine. - (CRConrad)
                         Can we please weight the risks - (Arkadiy)
         3) with some safeguards? - (Another Scott)
         4) WikiWay: everything wide open ... muuuaaaahahahahahaha -NT - (drewk) - (1)
             Shaddap wid' yer shaddin' ap... -NT - (admin)
         3 with a "what is your dog's name?" thingie -NT - (Silverlock)
         I'll join Ark, Scott(2), Don(Silverback), and YendorMike: 3+ - (CRConrad) - (2)
             <raises hand> on that last bit. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
             Aye - 3) with - (imric)
         Another few options: - (admin) - (9)
             I'd rather not vote on solutions until we discuss risks - (FuManChu) - (8)
                 Re: I'd rather not vote on solutions until we discuss risks - (admin) - (7)
                     Okay, start with costs of current proposals - (FuManChu) - (3)
                         Missed the point. :-) - (admin) - (2)
                             Understood, but you're use case #1 - (FuManChu) - (1)
                                 I can do private keys... - (folkert)
                     What do you want the software to do? - (Another Scott) - (2)
                         Nope, wrong - (drewk) - (1)
                             Yes, a *good* challenge question would be needed. - (Another Scott)
         how about 4, the way we do it now - (daemon) - (3)
             Which is? - (Another Scott)
             And what would that be? - (admin) - (1)
                 the way it works now - (daemon)
         How about 5... - (jb4)
         16) Storing them encrypted with a "reset my password" featur - (folkert)
         A variation on 2) - (altmann)
         3), with a question 1st. -NT - (broomberg)
         3 with a proviso - (ChrisR) - (1)
             I like that! -NT - (Arkadiy)
         3. Puts the onus of keeping valid email address on user. -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         3 -NT - (pwhysall)
         6. - (static)
         "zIWT meta: Which is better:" Voting/Ratification (new thread) - (folkert)

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