So why isn't it being done now?

Post #185,233 by Silverlock 11/28/04 7:05:38 AM Reply	So why isn't it being done now? I'd guess the water requirements are still the limiting factor. Can't use potable water. Can't realistically use even sewer water as it can be recycled back to potable and is too necessary for irrigation/crops. That leaves salt water. How you going to get one to the other? More pipelines probably. Now what are you going to do with the waste? recycle or bury? Feasible at 30 dollars a barrel? Not a chance. Maybe at 300. ----------------------------------------- How do you convince a Washington Journalist that you're not slapping him in the face? Tell him you're not.
Post #185,245 by daemon 11/28/04 11:43:38 AM Reply	it IS being done now, read the link THE ATP FOR OIL PRODUCTION FROM OIL SHALES The ATP is applied commercially as a new technology to produce oil from oil shale in Queensland, Australia. A 4,500 barrels per day production capacity plant was commissioned in 1999 that employs a 250 tph feed capacity ATP Processor to extract hydrocarbons from the mined shale. Secondary processes condense the vapors and condition the oil to market standards. The Processor is a rotary kiln-type vessel in which the continuous flow feed shale is heated and retorted at approximately 550 deg.C. The size of the cylindrical unit is 8m diameter by 60m long. the word commisioned implies produxction regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #185,253 by jake123 11/28/04 12:44:49 PM Reply	Yes, it is happening now A lot of facilities are being built in Alberta right now. This is not without controversy up here; the process uses a LOT of natural gas, and it's driving the prices for natural gas up. A lot of homes in Canada use natural gas for heating, and it's hitting a lot of people in the wallet. The other issue is the water, and just what will be done with it afterwards. The trade press and business pages up here run stories on the development of the tar sands a lot these days. The added activity is also lifting up some of the provinces; Alberta became debt-free earlier this year, and Saskatchewan is now officially a "have" province (within the context of federal transfer payments between provinces). Saskatchewan (birthplace of Canadian socialism and socialist medicare) could become a good place to settle, when looking at the long term; land's cheap, there aren't many people there, and the only major drawback is that the winters are completely brutal. --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #185,258 by daemon 11/28/04 12:59:41 PM Reply	the winters are fine in Saskatchewan spent a winter in the wonderful town of watreaus. Nice dry cold, not too much snow, some nice country if you like flat prairie. If you dont go into the slave lake region. Before I die I would like to traverse slave lake into the Makenzie river and float to the mouth. regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #185,320 by jake123 11/28/04 8:22:38 PM Reply	Try running that one past Todd after all, he thinks Seattle's too cold;) --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #185,323 by daemon 11/28/04 10:11:16 PM Reply	cause he lives on a boat in seatle in a boat at 30 degrees farenheit it feels subzero. No insulation and radiated heat by either a diesel stove or propane stove. regards, daemon that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE clearwater highschool marching band [link\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/\|http://www.chstornadoband.org/]
Post #185,501 by tuberculosis 11/29/04 9:14:03 PM 8/21/07 6:08:34 AM Reply	It was freakin cold last night lemme tell ya First time temp has dropped to the low 20's and I foolishly turned off the heat when I went to CO for T-day. Came back and turned on heat but it didn't warm up much last night. Maybe when I get home tonight. Also, my current heat is shore power electric (liquid filled radiator type to which I add a little fan to blow the heat off it and into the room). Gotta get me a diesel furnace soon. "The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein "This is still a dangerous world. It's a world of madmen and uncertainty and potential mental losses." --George W. Bush Edited by tuberculosis Aug. 21, 2007, 06:08:34 AM EDT Expand All History

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