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Post #183,142 by jb4 11/5/04 5:39:28 PM Reply	OK, then How many of the howevermany billions are going into the US economy? Well, there's the CEO's salary, and of course, the kickbacks....and, yes, the money "donated" to the PACs. And a whole shitload of money going into Iraq, which'll help Iraq's economy (assuming, of course, that Iraq has an economy after we destroy the shit out of whatever infrastructure is left there; in the interim, I suppose that all those bucks are drawing decent interest so as to pay nice dividends to the CEO, et al). jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #183,144 by bepatient 11/5/04 5:52:50 PM Reply	What do you think we are buying? Sand? sigh If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,149 by jb4 11/5/04 6:13:10 PM Reply	I can think of several things: PAC money for the next election. Political favoritism Dickie-C's pension Halliburton's CEO's golden parachute Misdirection for Ken Lay I'm sure I'll think of some other stuff later.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #183,162 by bepatient 11/5/04 8:06:07 PM Reply	I'm sure you will and I'm sure you'll think it was brilliant when you do. If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,440 by jb4 11/8/04 9:12:02 AM Reply	Not brilliant...merely accurate.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #183,458 by bepatient 11/8/04 10:48:12 AM Reply	O.O.T. ut f ouch If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #183,146 by ben_tilly 11/5/04 5:54:26 PM Reply	Bad assumption If we spend a billion dollars building infrastructure, then a billion dollars blowing it up, then another billion dollars building infrastructure (plus another billion protecting the workers from irate locals) then another billion blowing things up, what have we accomplished? 5 billion spent, a bunch of injuries, complete disruption of that area so it cannot rebuild itself, ticked off locals and lots of press releases. Some of the spent money finds its way into the pockets of the CEO of Haliburton and similar places. The work put out went to accomplish zilch of value. I don't care how much we spend in Iraq, it won't help their economy in the long run. Nothing will until we stop dropping bombs. Cheers, Ben I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #183,148 by jb4 11/5/04 6:09:55 PM Reply	My point 'xactly! I guess my ability to post concisely was damaged by the presidential Erection. (...never mind...) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

"I earned capital in the campaign -- political capital.." - (deSitter) - (38) - Nov. 4, 2004, 01:49:55 PM EST

Beat me to it. I just heard it on NPR. Very scary. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:35:20 PM EST

I caught that, too - (jb4) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:53:04 PM EST

I was amused by his attempt to be a uniter - (ben_tilly) - (35) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:37:37 PM EST

The man is a megalomaniac - this is very scary - (deSitter) - (34) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:39:26 PM EST

Already said he would. - (imric) - (33) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:11:29 PM EST

ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:24:46 PM EST

No...now wait a minnit, there, Skip! - (jb4) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2004, 05:52:48 PM EST

The two do not contradict - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:02:17 PM EST

Done right would be in federally guarrantied funds - (daemon) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:04:31 PM EST

Where do you think it goes? - (bepatient) - (28) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:06:37 PM EST

Into current payments and our debt - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:43:06 PM EST

Re: Into current payments and our debt - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 07:02:56 PM EST

Only sort of - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 4, 2004, 09:35:19 PM EST

Huh? - (imric) - (21) - Nov. 4, 2004, 07:44:52 PM EST

C'mon now. - (bepatient) - (20) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:04:24 PM EST

Classic -- give the man a prize - (GBert) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:49:50 PM EST

Gee - so Reagan didn't - (imric) - (18) - Nov. 5, 2004, 02:02:21 AM EST

Twice - (bepatient) - (17) - Nov. 5, 2004, 12:25:09 PM EST

Nope. - (imric) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2004, 02:27:13 PM EST

Regardless of # - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2004, 04:01:23 PM EST

I don't give a damn for Democrats - - (imric) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:11:59 PM EST

Re: I don't give a damn for Democrats - - (bepatient) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:35:30 PM EST

Woe is me? - (imric) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2004, 09:11:29 AM EST

Thou sayest - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2004, 11:52:36 PM EST

I prefer squirt-guns filled with DMSO + LSD to paint balls. - (imric) - Nov. 12, 2004, 06:29:43 AM EST

Oh, you mean like... - (jb4) - (9) - Nov. 5, 2004, 03:39:57 PM EST

Yep. Thats what I mean. -NT - (bepatient) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2004, 04:02:04 PM EST

OK, then - (jb4) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:39:28 PM EST

What do you think we are buying? - (bepatient) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:52:50 PM EST

I can think of several things: - (jb4) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2004, 06:13:10 PM EST

I'm sure you will - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2004, 08:06:07 PM EST

Not brilliant...merely accurate.... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:12:02 AM EST

O.O.T. - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 10:48:12 AM EST

Bad assumption - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:54:26 PM EST

My point 'xactly! - (jb4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 06:09:55 PM EST

Re: "lockbox" - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 08:06:20 PM EST

Bureau of Public Debt - (bepatient) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:11:04 PM EST

That might work - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:52:16 PM EST

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