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Post #182,883
by jb4
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11/4/04 5:52:48 PM
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New No...now wait a minnit, there, Skip!
The Bush people (which is not unlike "the Pod People") [link|http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135814,00.html|have specifically said] he wouldn't "privatize" social security.
The Bush team said that "privatization" and allowing younger workers to invest their Social Security payments into various stock and bond options were not the same thing, and that the president had already promised seniors that their benefits would not be affected by efforts to perpetuate the program.

It added that the Kerry camp was using semantics designed to scare senior citizens.





Remember, "Fox News"1 reports, you decide.


1 An oxymoron if ever there was one
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Post #182,893
by ben_tilly
11/4/04 6:02:17 PM
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New The two do not contradict
Bush did not suggest privatizing Social Security.

He suggested letting people have more control over how they manage their Social Security retirement funds, which would inevitably lead to more private investment of that money. (Hence Imric's point.)

Personally I'm not totally against this proposal. Done right it could be good. Of course the key words are, "Done right" - and if there is one thing that I trust Duh not to do, it is doing things right.

Cheers,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
Post #182,894
by daemon
11/4/04 6:04:31 PM
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New Done right would be in federally guarrantied funds
would pay better than social security but have a safety factor if the underlying funding method failed.
regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
     "I earned capital in the campaign -- political capital.." - (deSitter) - (38) - Nov. 4, 2004, 01:49:55 PM EST
         Beat me to it. I just heard it on NPR. Very scary. - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:35:20 PM EST
             I caught that, too - (jb4) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:53:04 PM EST
         I was amused by his attempt to be a uniter - (ben_tilly) - (35) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:37:37 PM EST
             The man is a megalomaniac - this is very scary - (deSitter) - (34) - Nov. 4, 2004, 02:39:26 PM EST
                 Already said he would. - (imric) - (33) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:11:29 PM EST
                     ICLRPD (new thread) - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 4, 2004, 03:24:46 PM EST
                     No...now wait a minnit, there, Skip! - (jb4) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2004, 05:52:48 PM EST
                         The two do not contradict - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:02:17 PM EST
                             Done right would be in federally guarrantied funds - (daemon) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:04:31 PM EST
                     Where do you think it goes? - (bepatient) - (28) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:06:37 PM EST
                         Into current payments and our debt - (ben_tilly) - (2) - Nov. 4, 2004, 06:43:06 PM EST
                             Re: Into current payments and our debt - (bepatient) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 07:02:56 PM EST
                                 Only sort of - (ben_tilly) - Nov. 4, 2004, 09:35:19 PM EST
                         Huh? - (imric) - (21) - Nov. 4, 2004, 07:44:52 PM EST
                             C'mon now. - (bepatient) - (20) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:04:24 PM EST
                                 Classic -- give the man a prize - (GBert) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:49:50 PM EST
                                 Gee - so Reagan didn't - (imric) - (18) - Nov. 5, 2004, 02:02:21 AM EST
                                     Twice - (bepatient) - (17) - Nov. 5, 2004, 12:25:09 PM EST
                                         Nope. - (imric) - (6) - Nov. 5, 2004, 02:27:13 PM EST
                                             Regardless of # - (bepatient) - (5) - Nov. 5, 2004, 04:01:23 PM EST
                                                 I don't give a damn for Democrats - - (imric) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:11:59 PM EST
                                                     Re: I don't give a damn for Democrats - - (bepatient) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:35:30 PM EST
                                                         Woe is me? - (imric) - (2) - Nov. 6, 2004, 09:11:29 AM EST
                                                             Thou sayest - (Ashton) - (1) - Nov. 11, 2004, 11:52:36 PM EST
                                                                 I prefer squirt-guns filled with DMSO + LSD to paint balls. - (imric) - Nov. 12, 2004, 06:29:43 AM EST
                                         Oh, you mean like... - (jb4) - (9) - Nov. 5, 2004, 03:39:57 PM EST
                                             Yep. Thats what I mean. -NT - (bepatient) - (8) - Nov. 5, 2004, 04:02:04 PM EST
                                                 OK, then - (jb4) - (7) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:39:28 PM EST
                                                     What do you think we are buying? - (bepatient) - (4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:52:50 PM EST
                                                         I can think of several things: - (jb4) - (3) - Nov. 5, 2004, 06:13:10 PM EST
                                                             I'm sure you will - (bepatient) - (2) - Nov. 5, 2004, 08:06:07 PM EST
                                                                 Not brilliant...merely accurate.... -NT - (jb4) - (1) - Nov. 8, 2004, 09:12:02 AM EST
                                                                     O.O.T. - (bepatient) - Nov. 8, 2004, 10:48:12 AM EST
                                                     Bad assumption - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Nov. 5, 2004, 05:54:26 PM EST
                                                         My point 'xactly! - (jb4) - Nov. 5, 2004, 06:09:55 PM EST
                         Re: "lockbox" - (a6l6e6x) - (1) - Nov. 4, 2004, 08:06:20 PM EST
                             Bureau of Public Debt - (bepatient) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:11:04 PM EST
                         That might work - (tuberculosis) - Nov. 4, 2004, 10:52:16 PM EST

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