Post #182,161
11/2/04 4:05:09 AM
11/2/04 4:13:22 AM
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Now Feds say Repo challeger scum can be present
[link|http://nytimes.com/2004/11/02/politics/campaign/02ohio.html|http://nytimes.com/2...paign/02ohio.html]
[link|http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/2004/la-na-ohiovote2nov02,0,3514993.story?coll=la-home-headlines|http://www.latimes.c...la-home-headlines]
(2-1: the 2 were Reagan and Bush appointees - the dissent was a Clinton appointee)
This is just ludicrous. Let's hope it fires up the black voters as blatant racism, which is what it is.
Again we see an interesting clash between local and Federal courts.
I want a war. My God, my God what a plague on humanity are Republicans.
-drl
Edited by deSitter
Nov. 2, 2004, 04:13:22 AM EST
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Post #182,205
11/2/04 9:59:18 AM
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Making voter fraud safe, legal and common
It is considered very poor political etiquette to explain this apparent perversity. But the reason (as even non-partisan experts admit in the privacy of seminars) is that voter fraud disproportionately benefits the Democrats and their political allies in left-wing activist groups and ethnic lobbies. Voter fraud tends to be easier to commit in one party districts and in inner cities \ufffd and those tend to be strongly Democratic districts.
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The fact \ufffd a fact that no GOP spokesman has had the courage to say straight out \ufffd is that allegations of voter intimidation are intended to protect voter fraud. Allegations of racism and discrimination are designed to prevent anyone objecting to voter fraud. Legal battles to bar party challengers from the polling booths are mounted to make voter fraud safe, legal and common. [link|http://www.nationalreview.com/jos/osullivan200411020753.asp|Link]
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Post #182,209
11/2/04 10:01:46 AM
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The usual right-wing commie doublespeaking bilge
..to cover up collectivo-racist behavior.
You people are too stupid to even disguise your actions. Really, you're embarrasing Lenin and Mao.
-drl
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Post #182,215
11/2/04 10:28:06 AM
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Tell me...
What are you going to do about the Union Strong Arm Tactics being used at election halls.
The Unions have the Union Scribe/Secretary and Union Treasurer (and other Union Representative) at the doors, to remind Union Members how to vote properly.
Don't tell me this is Bullshit, I just saw it happening at my voting locale today. Right inside the School doors, but more than 50 ft away from the Voting area. Quite nice for them, as they used to have to stand outside at the old locale.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #182,216
11/2/04 10:35:09 AM
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Re: Tell me...
Duh, they're union members - they get outstanding benefits from the union and should do their duty to it and their co-workers, or get out. Nothing at all wrong with that. They aren't there to prevent people from voting. They aren't espousing racism in a chickensh*t format.
Unions are WHY we even HAD a middle class (once) in the first place. Too bad rightest lamers managed to convince everyone otherwise by appealing to their elitism ("I'm better than they are") or greed ("I deserve more than they do!").
You can't compare unions, whose goal is worker protection from wage slavery, to rightist collectivist mobs, whose goal is a homogeneous, thoughtless society of dutiful non-reading non-thinking TV-slurping narcissist drones.
-drl
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Post #182,219
11/2/04 10:46:27 AM
11/2/04 10:47:22 AM
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I have to say
'reminding' people how they must vote is WRONG.
'Controlling' a block of voters gives unions political power, but what you advocated "they get outstanding benefits from the union and should do their duty to it and their co-workers" is nothing less than the system of Patrons used in the Roman Republic, re-stated. You might as well make the purchase of votes legal.
I have no problems with union reps being vocal about who they think the union should vote for, or with union halls being used as venues for trying to sway members. Stationing local reps outside polling places seems over-the-top to me. It's too close to intimidation tactics.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Edited by imric
Nov. 2, 2004, 10:47:22 AM EST
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Post #182,222
11/2/04 10:49:31 AM
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DING-DING-DING.
They are outside the 50ft requirement. Or what ever the requirement is.
-- [link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg], [link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwetheyNo matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
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Post #182,224
11/2/04 10:54:06 AM
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Heh - should be out of sight
Along with Party reps.
Imric's Tips for Living
- Paranoia Is a Survival Trait
- Pessimists are never disappointed - but sometimes, if they are very lucky, they can be pleasantly surprised...
- Even though everyone is out to get you, it doesn't matter unless you let them win.
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Nothing is as simple as it seems in the beginning,
As hopeless as it seems in the middle,
Or as finished as it seems in the end.
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Post #182,258
11/2/04 1:37:08 PM
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Funny...
So it is fraud to vote while black?
The Republican party has a long list of ways that they supress the black vote - most of them aimed at inner cities. But they jump up and down screaming about fraud - while submitting lists of people to be excluded that turn out to be fraudulently created.
I have news for you. While jumping up and down and screaming first about fraud may sound good, in the end what should matter are facts. And the facts so far in this election are that Republicans have been playing dirtier tricks than the Democrats. If you want a partial list, read [link|http://www.gregpalast.com/detail.cfm?artid=389&row=0|http://www.gregpalas...m?artid=389&row=0].
Regards,
Ben
I have come to believe that idealism without discipline is a quick road to disaster, while discipline without idealism is pointless. -- Aaron Ward (my brother)
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