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New Paprika
OK, I've had a jar of paprika (poured out once a year because it's never used up) in my spice drawer forever. Who wants to use this crap? How could paprika be the signiture spice of an entire culture? Something was wrong here and my inquiring mind wanted to know what.

I tracked down the only Hungarian emporeum I could find - Otto's on a residential block in Burbank.

Burbank, Glendale, etc. used to have a fair scattering of neighborhood markets on street corners in residential neighborhoods. Some still exist, and Otto has converted one to his Hungarian deli/grocery.

Major Problem

Otto, also a perveyor of "Black Forest Hams" and such, apparently goes back to Europe for Octoberfest - from the begining of October 'till the end of October (well, you need some sober-up time, after all). Otto's was closed up tight for the duration.

He opened on Friday and I went over there today. He's a talkative guy, but I wasn't ready to talk much, so I just bought one "sweet" paprika and two "hot" paprikas (he has them labeled by the city in which they were ground, and the two "hots" were noticeably different, but unless you are a Hungarian, not enought different to matter).

My suspicions were justified. Hungarian paprika resembles American paprika about as much as it resembles plaster of Paris. THIS IS GOOD STUFF - very sweet, very tasty. The "hot" is pretty mild by Southern California standards, but hot enough for government work.

Conclusion: if you use paprika, use genuine Hungarian paprika or don't bother.

The peppers used, incidentally, were probably introduced through Turkey, since they differ substantially from Spanish and Portuguese sweet peppers (which reminds me, I scored some fresh pimento peppers last weekend and they are deeeelicious!

I just finished reading (cover to cover, except for a few deserts (I am not a desert person)) Gundel's Hungarian Cookbook, first published by Karoly Gundel in 1934 and revised by his two sons in 1956 (the year of his death). Since he was one of the greatest and most successful Hungarian chefs (until the Communization of his restaurants in 1949), it can be considered definitive.

Hungarian cuisine is robust, so if you are afraid of lard (and more lard), bacon, goose liver, pig parts, sour cream and sauerkraut, you will just have to stand on the sidelines and drool.

Unfortunately, American supermarket lard is of unusable quality - aternative sources are available - more subsequent to ongoing investigation.

Ah, yes, I just got in a book with a recipe for real traditional haggis, though it's not on the front burner right now (some of the ingredients are inconvenient to obtain even in Los Angeles (unless you have your own sheep, and, well, she's just not been putting out lately)). When I get around to giving it a try, I think I'll leave out the sheep eyes though. Also, I'll have to locate a piper to pipe it to the table (that's usually not real hard around here - there's plenty of pipers available for a few bucks and a few beers).

One author I've got a book by around here somewhere says the worst haggis he ever had was served in Italy, made by a cook who learned how from the cook of a British destroyer just after WWII. He said he'd cut the guy some slack - except the BEST haggis he'd ever had was served a few blocks away by an Italian cook who probably learned the same way.

Interesting things happen at the end of wars when the only food available is stuff that was not previously considered food.








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New Great on potato salad and eggs
-drl
New Lard, get thee hence to the Hispanic neighborhood grocers
got both lard and tallow, and for you youngsters out there, you havnt had a real freedom fry unless you have had them cooked in tallow. Agreed on the paprika, hungarian is good if available, the Goya product is somewhat serviceable if you cant get hungarian. Most people also think the saffron for $2.00 per jar is real saffron, well its the same color.
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daemon
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New Safron here at $1.59 / 1 gram tin (Spanish) . .
. . pretty good deal.
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New Re: Safron here at $1.59 / 1 gram tin (Spanish) . .
28 grams to the ounce and a price of $53.00 per ounce, pretty good deal.
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regards,
daemon
that way too many Iraqis conceived of free society as little more than a mosh pit with grenades. ANDISHEH NOURAEE
New "Tallow"?
What do you mean when you say that? My local chippy uses beef dripping to fry in. Most delicious.


Peter
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New Yeah, tallow is made from beef . . .
. . but most Americans associate the word with "pre-revolutionary" *** candles made therefrom.

*** I use the term "pre-revolutionary" advisedly in full knowledge that the so called "American Revolution" was actually a pre-corporate "hostile takeover" run by a few local "business men" and general trouble makers - with great risk calculated on greater profit (and in John Hancock's case, kissing off a significant debt to the British Crown - signing his name so large on the "Declaration of Independence" that King George could "read it without his specticles").

One of these days you Brits are going to learn not to export your criminals (America: got out before the police came, Australia: after the police came).
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Expand Edited by Andrew Grygus Oct. 31, 2004, 01:33:22 AM EDT
New If you do haggis, I want a taste!
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New IC(ancient)LRPD (new thread)
Created as new thread #188723 titled [link|/forums/render/content/show?contentid=188723|IC(ancient)LRPD]
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New Piping Haggis
For a moment, I was picturing a complex plumbing system (thus requiring the services of a licensed contractor), that would cook, encase, and deliver a steaming log of the aforementioned concoction directly to one's dinner table.
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Chris Altmann
New haggis for breakfast
a large number of years ago, when I was a student, my roommate and I hosted a Robbie Burns night, complete with haggis etc. The piper was prerecorded but did pretty fair for that. The next morning, I fried up the left over haggis for breakfast. I enjoyed it. My roommate complained bitterly that it didn't go well with his hangover...
Have fun,
Carl Forde
     Paprika - (Andrew Grygus) - (10)
         Great on potato salad and eggs -NT - (deSitter)
         Lard, get thee hence to the Hispanic neighborhood grocers - (daemon) - (4)
             Safron here at $1.59 / 1 gram tin (Spanish) . . - (Andrew Grygus) - (1)
                 Re: Safron here at $1.59 / 1 gram tin (Spanish) . . - (daemon)
             "Tallow"? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Yeah, tallow is made from beef . . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         If you do haggis, I want a taste! -NT - (ben_tilly)
         IC(ancient)LRPD (new thread) - (drewk)
         Piping Haggis - (altmann) - (1)
             haggis for breakfast - (cforde)

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