Post #179,545
10/16/04 12:18:30 PM
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Ignorance, what a surprise.
From the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms: 2. Everyone has the following fundamental freedoms:
a) freedom of conscience and religion; b) freedom of thought, belief, opinion and expression, including freedom of the press and other media of communication; c) freedom of peaceful assembly; and d) freedom of association. You really are a narrow ignorant bigoted buffoon, aren't you little phil? Whats the matter? You still pissed because our politicians had the brains, foresight, and cojones to see where your Dear Leader's little foreign adventure/revenge fantasy was going to go and refusing to get involved?
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Post #179,552
10/16/04 2:23:47 PM
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Re: Ignorance, what a surprise.
except when discussing homosexuality from the pulpet, then jail terms. regards, daemon
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Post #179,553
10/16/04 2:27:10 PM
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What are you talking about?
The only way that might lead to jail terms would be if the guy advocated violence.
A homosexual standing on a fruit crate on a street corner and suggesting that all Catholics should be killed would get the same treatment.
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Post #179,554
10/16/04 2:38:37 PM
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thank you for making my point
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Post #179,556
10/16/04 3:41:32 PM
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How so?
Last time I checked, there were lots of countries that have various restrictions on speech, including the good ol' US of A.
That list also includes Israel.
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Post #179,640
10/17/04 6:28:34 PM
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No, it's a "human rights offense" regardless
Noe if, they just had a real First Amendment instead of some vague charter thingy, they wouldn't have to worry about [link|http://www.townhall.com/columnists/johnleo/jl20040412.shtml|this osrt of thing]
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A recent flurry of cases has mostly gone against free expression. The Saskatchewan Human Rights Commission ruled that a newspaper ad listing biblical passages that oppose homosexuality was a human-rights offense. The commission ordered the paper and Hugh Owens, the man who placed the ad, to pay $1,500 each to three gay men who objected to it. In another case, a British Columbia court upheld the one-month suspension, without pay, of a high school teacher who wrote letters to a local paper arguing that homosexuality is not a fixed orientation but a condition that can and should be treated. The teacher, Chris Kempling, was not accused of discrimination, merely of expressing thoughts that the state defines as improper.
That anti-free-speech principle, social conservatives argue, will become explicit national policy under C-250, with criminal penalties attached. Religious groups say it would become risky for them to teach certain biblical passages. If a student says something that irritates homosexuals in class, the student's parents might be held legally liable. Some Canadians worry that, for instance, discussions about gay men giving blood will be suppressed. Robert Spitzer of Columbia University, a longtime supporter of gay rights and an important figure in the American Psychiatric Association, published a study finding that many gays can become heterosexual. Would that study be banned under C-250 as hate speech? And since C-250 does not mention homosexuality but focuses broadly on "sexual orientation," Canada's freewheeling judiciary may explicitly extend protection to many "sexual minorities." Pedophilia and sadism are among the conditions listed by the American Psychiatric Association under "sexual orientation."
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Post #179,648
10/17/04 8:08:00 PM
10/18/04 6:11:54 AM
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Shut the fsck up you communist drone
-drl
Edited by deSitter
Oct. 18, 2004, 06:11:54 AM EDT
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Post #179,653
10/17/04 8:15:15 PM
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No...thats mmoffitt ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #179,669
10/17/04 9:17:10 PM
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Gazza Ladra..
.. at least we know what it is MM would wish to Conserve, unlike certain polycarping apologists for status-quo. ;-)
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Post #179,838
10/18/04 6:22:16 PM
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No Moffit is a Communist
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Post #179,879
10/18/04 8:48:25 PM
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Duh. Thats what I said ;-)
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
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Post #180,051
10/19/04 6:01:38 PM
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Difference big C little c
One is an idealogue the other is a useful idiot. regards, daemon
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Post #179,655
10/17/04 8:25:18 PM
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C-250 huh?
Well, that's the legislation that your crowd up here (reform -> alliance -> new conservative party) is all over because it doesn't repress freedom of expression enough.
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Post #179,637
10/17/04 6:12:49 PM
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Ah, so there's no possibility of lawsuit, then?
Somebody better tell Mr. Kinsella that.
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Post #179,644
10/17/04 7:38:25 PM
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Who said anything about no possibility of a lawsuit?
Those two things are not related. You could sue me because I'm here saying Marlowe is a Moron of the Finest Water, but it doesn't mean you'd win.
Kinsella can try to sue if he wants, but if he listens to his lawyer, he won't, because he has equal opportunity to rebut their arguments and put forward his opinion. All he'll be accomplishing is enriching his lawyer and making himself look a fool, not that he hasn't done so already.
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