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Post #179,290 by hnick 10/14/04 1:57:54 PM Reply	Umm.. You were supposed to infer "Statistics" from the elipsis. It is a very standard saying. The suggestion was that you were drawing the incorrect conclusion by incorrectly using the data. You were not being accused of being a liar. At least I don't think so. Feel free to carry on about the proper use of the data. I don't think that it will break down to a black and white solution, so there will probably be no consensus at the end. But if you enjoy that sort of thing...
Post #179,297 by Nightowl 10/14/04 2:25:28 PM Reply	I was just questioning jb4's subject line, he called it Lies, Damn lies and.. And I just wanted to know why. Brenda "It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Post #179,299 by jbrabeck 10/14/04 2:40:18 PM Reply	Just guessing But figures can be made to show anything positive or negative. Figures don't lie, but their presentation without the supporting documentation can mislead... Kerry: We've lost 1.6 million jobs (doesn't count jobs created) Bush: We've created 1.3 million jobs (doesn't address fact that most are lower paying jobs. Both figures are "correct" and both figures "lie". A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
Post #179,300 by Nightowl 10/14/04 2:42:11 PM Reply	Ah ok Thanks for explaining that. Like I said, there is only data that shows that 9 out of ten people who did participate in a school shooting, told someone in advance or wrote it down. I would be interested however, in data about how many talked about it and didn't do it. That would be a fascinating study. I just haven't seen any data to that effect. Nightowl >8# "It's not where a person stands in time of comfort and security, but rather where they stand in times of strife and controversy that determine true friends." (Quote sent to me by a true friend, author unknown).
Post #179,303 by jb4 10/14/04 2:47:13 PM Reply	What. He. Said. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT

'Nosy' students avert possible school shooting - (jbrabeck) - (60) - Oct. 13, 2004, 08:58:01 AM EDT

Thoughtcrime! - (pwhysall) - (55) - Oct. 13, 2004, 09:00:15 AM EDT

Not quite - (jbrabeck) - (54) - Oct. 13, 2004, 09:45:52 AM EDT

Absolutely! - (pwhysall) - (53) - Oct. 13, 2004, 12:35:56 PM EDT

Question - (jbrabeck) - (10) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:38:26 PM EDT

Right when you start DOING things. - (pwhysall) - (7) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:45:36 PM EDT

Does this constitute "doing something"? - (jbrabeck) - (6) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:47:44 PM EDT

Not in my book. - (pwhysall) - (5) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:55:11 PM EDT

So, in your world... - (jb4) - (4) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:57:03 PM EDT

Let's temper this with pragmatism, eh? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 02:50:41 PM EDT

I agree with you, that one was ridiculous. - (jbrabeck) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:13:32 PM EDT

Nah, in my world - (jake123) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:17:57 PM EDT

Yah, in my world, too - (jb4) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:56:44 PM EDT

guilty of conspiracy once you involve another - (daemon) - Oct. 13, 2004, 05:41:15 PM EDT

Conspiricy to commit - (bepatient) - Oct. 13, 2004, 06:45:22 PM EDT

aka "The Minority Report" -NT - (lincoln) - (4) - Oct. 13, 2004, 02:48:03 PM EDT

That film did cross my mind, yes. -NT - (pwhysall) - (3) - Oct. 13, 2004, 02:50:59 PM EDT

Never saw it. -NT - (jbrabeck) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:14:00 PM EDT

One of Cruise's better films. - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 03:15:47 PM EDT

Yup, the storyline is original - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 13, 2004, 04:42:56 PM EDT

Maybe not a criminal - (Nightowl) - (36) - Oct. 13, 2004, 04:27:39 PM EDT

Bah. - (pwhysall) - (35) - Oct. 13, 2004, 05:58:58 PM EDT

I don't think you read my post right - (Nightowl) - (34) - Oct. 13, 2004, 06:31:45 PM EDT

Oh, I read it right, all right. - (pwhysall) - (33) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:56:48 AM EDT

You think what you like, that's not what I said. - (Nightowl) - (31) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:12:33 PM EDT

And in 10 out of every 10, the kids breathed air -NT - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:18:37 PM EDT

Kids committed crimes at early ages a long time ago too. - (inthane-chan) - (12) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:22:27 PM EDT

They use both - (Nightowl) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:24:22 PM EDT

Bull. Access? No difference. - (imric) - (9) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:46:27 PM EDT

Sounds like you need a psychiatric evaluation! -NT - (pwhysall) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:48:56 PM EDT

That's not MY fault. - (imric) - (3) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:51:41 PM EDT

Let's search your property and find out! - (pwhysall) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:52:43 PM EDT

ROFLMAO! -NT - (imric) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:24:19 PM EDT

*sputter* coffee through nose - (bepatient) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:30:14 PM EDT

I didn't say it was access - (Nightowl) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:04:37 PM EDT

It probably had to do with location - (Nightowl) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:00:18 PM EDT

Re: Bull. Access? No difference. - (deSitter) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:01:38 PM EDT

Hmmm. Sounds like we need more of these. - (mmoffitt) - Oct. 14, 2004, 05:22:26 PM EDT

You're right also - (Nightowl) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:08:35 PM EDT

Read Oliver Twist... - (pwhysall) - Oct. 14, 2004, 12:44:00 PM EDT

Lies, Damn Lies, and... - (jb4) - (15) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:44:31 PM EDT

Then whats a lie about what I said? - (Nightowl) - (14) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:52:31 PM EDT

Why? - (drewk) - (8) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:56:29 PM EDT

Are you sure you want to know? - (Nightowl) - (7) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:23:56 PM EDT

Yes. -NT - (pwhysall) - (6) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:42:46 PM EDT

Okay here goes. - (Nightowl) - (5) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:54:47 PM EDT

Oh, THAT. - (pwhysall) - (2) - Oct. 14, 2004, 03:15:56 PM EDT

He sounds fascinating - (Nightowl) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2004, 04:00:54 PM EDT

Told ya so. -NT - (pwhysall) - Oct. 14, 2004, 04:07:56 PM EDT

Fair enough. - (Ashton) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2004, 07:35:52 PM EDT

Re: Fair enough. - (Nightowl) - Oct. 15, 2004, 12:46:36 AM EDT

Umm.. - (hnick) - (4) - Oct. 14, 2004, 01:57:54 PM EDT

I was just questioning - (Nightowl) - (2) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:25:28 PM EDT

Just guessing - (jbrabeck) - (1) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:40:18 PM EDT

Ah ok - (Nightowl) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:42:11 PM EDT

What. He. Said. -NT - (jb4) - Oct. 14, 2004, 02:47:13 PM EDT

how does a brit kid end up in care? - (daemon) - Oct. 14, 2004, 06:04:48 PM EDT

s/possible/unlikely/ -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Oct. 13, 2004, 11:21:53 AM EDT

Re: s/possible/unlikely/ - (jb4) - (2) - Oct. 13, 2004, 12:05:09 PM EDT

Check the title of the post -NT - (hnick) - (1) - Oct. 13, 2004, 12:13:28 PM EDT

Uhhh...Oooops! - (jb4) - Oct. 13, 2004, 01:58:33 PM EDT

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