Post #179,117
10/13/04 1:38:26 PM
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Question
At what point do I become a criminal?
I decide I want to blow up building x.
I make my plans.
Hire my assistants.
Buy the explosives.
Load everything into the trucks.
Park trucks at loading docks under target building.
Relocate myself to a position 2 km away from target building.
Detonate explosives and watch building collapse.
At each step I inform local police of my actions. When can they pick me up? Until I've detonated, it's still only a "plan".
From the original article In the letter, Henton wrote: "The threats, which included the use of weapons in our school, were deemed credible by police investigators. I want you to know that our staff responded in the appropriate manner by immediately enacting our threat assessment plan, notifying police and cooperating with the police investigation."
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #179,120
10/13/04 1:45:36 PM
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Right when you start DOING things.
That'd be at "Hire my assistants", assuming you were up-front about what you were hiring them for.
Be careful what you wish for. You're posting a question on the internet that could be construed as cunningly concealed terrorist research.
Peter
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Post #179,121
10/13/04 1:47:44 PM
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Does this constitute "doing something"?
According to investigators, Deutsch threatened to hurt that student -- a longtime friend -- if he refused to participate in the shootings.
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #179,125
10/13/04 1:55:11 PM
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Not in my book.
If (at the age of 16 or so) a friend of mine had offered to hurt me if I didn't go along with some hare-brained scheme or other involving WERLD DOMINATION, I'd have been inclined to advise them that such behaviour is deserving of a swift kick in the slats.
Peter
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Post #179,130
10/13/04 2:00:02 PM
10/13/04 3:57:03 PM
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So, in your world...
...a threat doesn't constitute "doing something"?
jb4
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Edited by jb4
Oct. 13, 2004, 03:57:03 PM EDT
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Post #179,140
10/13/04 2:50:41 PM
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Let's temper this with pragmatism, eh?
This ridiculous "zero tolerance" approach is the same thing that gets children excluded from school for [link|http://www.sptimes.com/News/051101/TampaBay/Student_removed_from_.shtml|drawing guns on paper].
Are we there yet?
Peter
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Post #179,147
10/13/04 3:13:32 PM
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I agree with you, that one was ridiculous.
Drawing a picture of a weapon does not constitute a threat.
Drawing up detailed plans and trying to get help to carry out threat, does. imho
A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"
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Post #179,152
10/13/04 3:17:57 PM
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Nah, in my world
a thread is something that comes off the cuffs of my shirts.
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Post #179,160
10/13/04 3:56:44 PM
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Yah, in my world, too
Unfortunately, in my world, my fingers don't live in the same world as does my brain....
jb4
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Post #179,167
10/13/04 5:41:15 PM
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guilty of conspiracy once you involve another
in both merry olde and here
regards,
daemon
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Post #179,178
10/13/04 6:45:22 PM
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Conspiricy to commit
Pretty much once you go from talk to step one in the plan...you can be busted.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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