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Post #178,688

by imric

10/10/04 7:09:42 AM

No, Bill.

I find 'regime change' to 'invade and occupy' to be a drastic shift.

Moving from the support of removal of Saddam from office to taking Iraq by force - bearing the overwhelming cost in lives and dollars ourselves - IS drastic. It is not merely a continuation of policy, as the republicans have billed it.

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Post #178,689

by bepatient

10/10/04 8:53:48 AM

Maybe so.

Drastic or not. I don't think the merry men in the Pentagon had to dig too deep in the files to unearth this "drastic new neocon plan" (if that choice of wording suits you better).

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. _{Fudd's First Law of Opposition}

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