Re: They talked past each other.

Post #177,936 by deSitter 10/5/04 11:27:41 PM Reply	Re: They talked past each other. I hope the swing voters were watching the Yanks-Twins. The underdog won, hint hint. Seriously, Cheney succeeded in making Edwards look like a stupid kid (even though he's 50ish) and probably scared the piss out of a lot of the audience. Cheney should be running a taser factory. If he really wants to hurt the terrorists, he should offer them free dentistry. There wasn't enough discussion about the economy. That's what matters to Ohioans. -drl
Post #177,938 by rcareaga 10/5/04 11:36:38 PM Reply	Your planet? Sorry, deSitter—I've learned to respect your opinions apart from certain areas I've simply fenced off from your comments, but I think you have this bass-ackwards. All Edwards had to do was not demonstrate himself a total lightweight, and as I viewed the confrontation he managed that. I speak here as a guy older than Edwards, and grumpily predisposed to finding fault with 'im. cordially, Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?
Post #177,940 by deSitter 10/5/04 11:45:02 PM Reply	Re: Your planet? The winner of any debate is the one who fires off the most insults within the context of the debate. Cheney basically said "You're a Senator? I work there and never met you until now - go figure." That was devastating. He avoided any damaging talk about Haliburton. He may have even broken the law by ordering the 9/11 shoot-down scramble without the President's OK. Somehow none of it got out in the open. That's a clear win in my mind. -drl
Post #177,980 by rcareaga 10/6/04 10:06:56 AM Reply	"You're a Senator?" DeSitter: Cheney basically said "You're a Senator? I work there and never met you until now - go figure." That was devastating. Ah, but it was also quite untrue: [link\|http://www.j-bradford-delong.net/movable_type/2004-2_archives/000323.html\|Unca Dick...lies. Surprise!] Never forget: George Bush is said to have once raped his father's dog Millie in the course of a drunken fraternity prank. Mayne it's true, maybe it ain't: we just don't know. But can we afford to return a possible poodle-puncher to our nation's highest office? Devastation R Us. cordially, Cthulhu for President. Why vote for a lesser evil?
Post #177,984 by ChrisR 10/6/04 10:36:45 AM Reply	Cheney's been in the bunker for too long.
Post #177,986 by jb4 10/6/04 10:38:16 AM Reply	Re: "You're a Senator?" From the link: Why would Cheney make a lie so obviously easy to expose? It's almost pathological -- reality need not get in the way of a good zinger. Yup. Soundbites 'R' Us! jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #177,990 by Arkadiy 10/6/04 11:06:26 AM Reply	That particular phrase made Cheyney look like a tight-ass principal talking to a wayward student. Not one of Cheyney's proudest moments. -- ... a reference to Presidente Arbusto. -- [link\|http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/001417.html\|Geoffrey K. Pullum]
Post #178,018 by tuberculosis 10/6/04 12:38:40 PM Reply	Sen Leahy spoke after the debate to NBC and said that, yes, Cheney comes to congress on Tuesdays, but unlike past VP's, he only meets with Reps. So much for uniting people. That was lovely cheese. --Wallace, The Wrong Trousers
Post #177,981 by jbrabeck 10/6/04 10:23:24 AM Reply	No, underdog lost. Twins won. :-) A good friend will come and bail you out of jail ... but, a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"

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