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New "I use SuSE"
We have sane management of hotplug devices that does not lead to horrible kludges.
-drl
New It's not a horrible kludge.
Thanks for playing, though.


Peter
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New http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/91_coldhotplug.html
-drl
New What NO documentation for the ONE liner?
Oh come-on you. This is just wrong.

At least you could have provided SOME kind of summary that would have leveled the playing field on us NON-SuSE users. Why are you telling me this BAD advice.

You should have written a discertation on that message.

GAH, this is JUST wrong, what is there this Double Standard or SewPer-SEKRET SuSE Administration vs the lowly average Debian (l)user?
--
[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
New No, you use
something you are familiar with.

You believe Yast2 is the Shizzile and the Fizzile.

It is good. But *WHY* should I have to run a GUI from a possibly remote machine and display it JUST so I can manage USB modules?

If you haven't USED Debian Sarge, DON'T comment on it until you have file 15 bugreport through the use of the Beta release.

Trust me, I file 2 to three bugs a week during my time using sarge. Even a couple of config file patches to help things out.

One was for nagios-pgsql. It had the wrong deps for it. It was going to install the same package list as for nagios-mysql.

Now, how about you just go and use Debian Sarge (the next release to stable is called Sarge) and use the crap out of it. Submit your bugs, when you realize what I just told Drew to do, was the right thing to do, just type the words:
Greg, you were right, I am sorry for doubting your majestical knowledge in the World of Linux in General and Debian by Speciality.
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[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey
No matter how much Microsoft supporters whine about how Linux and other operating systems have just as many bugs as their operating systems do, the bottom line is that the serious, gut-wrenching problems happen on Windows, not on Linux, not on Mac OS. -- [link|http://www.eweek.com/article2/0,1759,1622086,00.asp|source]
Here is an example: [link|http://www.greymagic.com/security/advisories/gm001-ie/|Executing arbitrary commands without Active Scripting or ActiveX when using Windows]
     How do you prevent a module from loading? - (drewk) - (37)
         man modules.conf - (broomberg)
         Re: How do you prevent a module from loading? - (deSitter) - (1)
             Not any more - (drewk)
         A quick idea of what to look for and what to do. - (folkert) - (33)
             Re: A quick idea of what to look for and what to do. - (deSitter) - (32)
                 What redirection? - (drewk) - (16)
                     Re: What redirection? - (deSitter) - (15)
                         Reading for comprehension - (Yendor) - (2)
                             Re: Reading for comprehension - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 Oh, you're so damn l33t. - (pwhysall)
                         Wow - (drewk) - (10)
                             Wow - (deSitter) - (9)
                                 YUO = TEH FUNNEH - (pwhysall)
                                 Uhhh ... - (drewk) - (7)
                                     Re: Uhhh ... - (deSitter) - (6)
                                         What cack. - (pwhysall)
                                         He the BREAKS... - (folkert) - (4)
                                             Ha that is so rich - (deSitter) - (3)
                                                 "System tightness" means nothing... - (pwhysall)
                                                 I don't think you under stand. - (folkert)
                                                 And why not? - (ben_tilly)
                         Okay for your anal retentive mind... - (folkert)
                 "Hi. I'm Ross." - (pwhysall) - (5)
                     "I use SuSE" - (deSitter) - (4)
                         It's not a horrible kludge. - (pwhysall) - (2)
                             http://portal.suse.com/sdb/en/2004/05/91_coldhotplug.html -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 What NO documentation for the ONE liner? - (folkert)
                         No, you use - (folkert)
                 Hey Big Guy... - (folkert) - (8)
                     Re: Hey Big Guy... - (deSitter) - (7)
                         Or better yet... - (folkert) - (6)
                             fbog -NT - (deSitter) - (5)
                                 What, "fbog" Why? - (folkert) - (4)
                                     Calm down - (deSitter) - (3)
                                         He didn't - (drewk)
                                         No. blacklisting is ONLY for dealing with - (folkert)
                                         You call an extra sleep(5) not a kludge? - (ben_tilly)

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