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Post #176,117
by Silverlock
9/24/04 10:00:46 AM
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New The crap is your "heartfelt" concern.
Since when have you been a tree hugging lover of the downtrodden masses? I'd guess about 2.7 seconds after Rove sent out the fax defining it as the new talking point.

Iraq was sold as a necessary war in the fight against terrorism. Reframing it as a necessary war to depose a despot is utter and complete bullshit.
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Post #176,171
by bepatient
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9/24/04 11:37:08 AM
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New I'm not drinking the kool-aid dude.
We shouldn't be talking about this now...we should've been talking about it in 92-3 wen Hussein should've been taken care of.

Still, are you so sold on the fact that there is zero possibility that Iraq may end a better place for it?

If so, ok...you can sell their lives short. Thats your prerogative. I'm guess I'm not as pessimistic about their future. I could be wrong. So could you.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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Post #176,183
by mmoffitt
9/24/04 12:02:02 PM
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New There's the Pollyanna I know.
bcnu,
Mikem

"The struggle for the emancipation of the working class is not between races or religions. It is one of class against class. Every trace of anti-Semitism, or any form of race hatred cannot assist the oppressed, it can on the contrary only aid the exploiters. Workers of all nationality, religion or creed must stand together against the common enemy: capitalism."
-Ted Grant
     He must be lying - (bepatient) - (53) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:22:27 AM EDT
         No, not necessarily. - (jake123) - (40) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:25:36 AM EDT
             Do we want to compare.. - (bepatient) - (39) - Sept. 23, 2004, 01:28:11 PM EDT
                 That comparison means nothing to the issue - (jake123) - (6) - Sept. 23, 2004, 01:52:52 PM EDT
                     And if we are in and out - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 23, 2004, 02:15:38 PM EDT
                         Well, the US could leave tomorrow - (jake123) - (4) - Sept. 26, 2004, 04:04:11 AM EDT
                             Agree re: Afghan. -NT - (bepatient) - (3) - Sept. 26, 2004, 10:09:46 AM EDT
                                 There's a very good article in the October Atlantic - (jake123) - (2) - Sept. 26, 2004, 12:52:15 PM EDT
                                     If that's your paraphrase of the article - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 26, 2004, 05:46:25 PM EDT
                                         Not entirely - (jake123) - Sept. 26, 2004, 08:24:39 PM EDT
                 Wow. - (mmoffitt) - (31) - Sept. 23, 2004, 02:53:40 PM EDT
                     Are we? - (bepatient) - (30) - Sept. 23, 2004, 04:19:28 PM EDT
                         What crap. -NT - (Silverlock) - (27) - Sept. 23, 2004, 04:22:49 PM EDT
                             Really? - (bepatient) - (25) - Sept. 23, 2004, 06:44:43 PM EDT
                                 !!SHUN!! - (jb4) - (12) - Sept. 23, 2004, 07:07:30 PM EDT
                                     Look at the progression. - (bepatient) - (11) - Sept. 23, 2004, 07:27:00 PM EDT
                                         Devil's advocate can sometimes work. But when this - (Ashton) - (10) - Sept. 24, 2004, 02:37:30 AM EDT
                                             Since when.. - (bepatient) - (9) - Sept. 24, 2004, 06:42:50 AM EDT
                                                 How lofty.. to find the Beginnings now 'Irrelevant' - (Ashton) - (8) - Sept. 25, 2004, 01:09:47 AM EDT
                                                     Has it or has it not already occurred? - (bepatient) - (7) - Sept. 25, 2004, 06:40:23 AM EDT
                                                         Since you seem to have stepped out of the debbil's advocate - (Ashton) - Sept. 26, 2004, 02:08:35 AM EDT
                                                         "Ridiculous"? Really... - (mmoffitt) - (5) - Sept. 27, 2004, 10:26:09 AM EDT
                                                             Right. - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 27, 2004, 12:06:12 PM EDT
                                                                 Yep. We'll prolly still be there in 2009. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (3) - Sept. 27, 2004, 12:08:35 PM EDT
                                                                     Well prep for the question then. - (bepatient) - (2) - Sept. 27, 2004, 12:11:41 PM EDT
                                                                         Dream --> on. -NT - (Ashton) - (1) - Sept. 28, 2004, 03:46:12 AM EDT
                                                                             Aerosmith ROX dude -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 28, 2004, 07:59:27 AM EDT
                                 The crap is your "heartfelt" concern. - (Silverlock) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2004, 10:00:46 AM EDT
                                     I'm not drinking the kool-aid dude. - (bepatient) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2004, 11:37:08 AM EDT
                                         There's the Pollyanna I know. -NT - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 24, 2004, 12:02:02 PM EDT
                                 o0o0 what wonderful proof... - (Simon_Jester) - (8) - Sept. 24, 2004, 12:47:32 PM EDT
                                     Can find some wonderful things.. - (bepatient) - (7) - Sept. 24, 2004, 12:53:47 PM EDT
                                         Yep...that's why no many are ticked at Dan Rather - (Simon_Jester) - (6) - Sept. 24, 2004, 01:41:00 PM EDT
                                             Well...I kind of expect them to do it too, nowadays. - (bepatient) - (5) - Sept. 24, 2004, 01:56:02 PM EDT
                                                 That, my friend, is owed exclusively to a Republican. - (mmoffitt) - (4) - Sept. 24, 2004, 02:15:57 PM EDT
                                                     Ross, is that you? - (Another Scott) - (2) - Sept. 24, 2004, 02:34:26 PM EDT
                                                         Besides, we shouldn't blindly trust those that govern us. - (ChrisR) - (1) - Sept. 24, 2004, 02:42:01 PM EDT
                                                             Well that's mighty cynical - (deSitter) - Sept. 24, 2004, 03:04:33 PM EDT
                                                     I was talking about the press, goof. -NT - (bepatient) - Sept. 24, 2004, 03:17:10 PM EDT
                             oops - (bepatient) - Sept. 23, 2004, 06:48:25 PM EDT
                         I seem to recall an issue with the mass graves in Iraq.... - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 23, 2004, 06:24:43 PM EDT
                         Hey, if you're Sunni... - (jb4) - Sept. 23, 2004, 07:02:08 PM EDT
         I hope he is successful... - (ChrisR) - (7) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:45:04 AM EDT
             We're blind men describing an elephant. - (Another Scott) - (3) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:57:18 AM EDT
                 Russia exists for thousand yrs - Iraq not a country at all -NT - (deSitter) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:58:36 AM EDT
                     Not exactly. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 23, 2004, 12:17:26 PM EDT
                     Russia as we know it is a colonial empire - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 23, 2004, 12:30:45 PM EDT
             Scary and racist thought. - (Arkadiy) - (2) - Sept. 23, 2004, 11:58:54 AM EDT
                 Absoultely - (deSitter) - Sept. 23, 2004, 12:10:27 PM EDT
                 Excellent summation! Kudos. -NT - (Ashton) - Sept. 23, 2004, 06:35:53 PM EDT
         No, the IRAQ elections will be held on time... - (Simon_Jester) - Sept. 23, 2004, 12:54:35 PM EDT
         We'll see if he lives that long - (tuberculosis) - Sept. 23, 2004, 01:42:43 PM EDT
         Some elections will be held - (JayMehaffey) - Sept. 23, 2004, 01:49:36 PM EDT
         This will be just as meaningful as the "handover" -NT - (Silverlock) - Sept. 23, 2004, 03:08:45 PM EDT

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