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Post #173,589
by pwhysall
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9/10/04 4:37:59 PM
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New What about Chechnya?
You're noticably silent on that issue.

And Northern Ireland.

Peter
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Post #174,805
by Another Scott
9/17/04 11:23:58 AM
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New A proposal from S. Frederick Starr
[link|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27550-2004Sep16.html|Washington Post]:

The peace plan on which Duma members and Chechen leaders agreed included the same formula worked out a year earlier: Chechnya's continued legal membership in the Russian Federation, but with firm guarantees that it would enjoy the maximum degree of self-rule and autonomy. Maskhadov was quoted as saying he would accept this outcome as the best way of preserving the ethnic existence of the Chechen people. This lay to rest the red herring of secession about which Putin preached to grieving parents in Beslan after the schoolhouse attack there. In Liechtenstein the two sides differed only on such secondary points as whether Russian or joint Russian-Chechen forces should guard the southern border or whether the rest of Chechnya should be demilitarized.

What happened to these initiatives? When asked at a news conference about the first meeting, Putin flatly denied that it had taken place. When word got out about the second, the Russian White House said it was a scheme devised by Boris Berezovsky, a dissident oligarch, to discredit Putin, even though Berezovsky was in no way connected with it. In short, Putin brushed aside the proposals.

[...]

It is no secret that there are terrorists among revenge-seeking Chechens and that there are radical Islamists among the desperate population of that land. But if Putin persists in painting all Chechens with the same brush of terrorism and Wahhabism, he will block the only remaining path to a peaceful solution and deny Russians and Chechens the only approach known to have the support of responsible figures on both sides.


Putin's a big part of the problem, but it's not clear whether anyone is willing or able to stand up to him and force him to moderate his policies.

Cheers,
Scott.
     About the hostage situation in Russia - (Arkadiy) - (56) - Sept. 2, 2004, 09:27:47 AM EDT
         I've been really concerned about this issue - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 2, 2004, 11:28:52 AM EDT
             Nope -NT - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 2, 2004, 11:36:42 AM EDT
                 Some good news - (Nightowl) - Sept. 2, 2004, 12:13:42 PM EDT
         Condolences. - (Ashton) - Sept. 2, 2004, 11:58:51 PM EDT
         I just heard about this and had the same thought. - (mmoffitt) - (20) - Sept. 3, 2004, 09:40:43 AM EDT
             The answer is in - (Arkadiy) - (19) - Sept. 3, 2004, 10:34:16 AM EDT
                 Oh, God. Words fail. -NT - (mmoffitt) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2004, 11:45:26 AM EDT
                     I agree - (Nightowl) - Sept. 3, 2004, 01:14:27 PM EDT
                 What did they want? - (tuberculosis) - (14) - Aug. 21, 2007, 05:54:50 AM EDT
                     It's those kwazy Chechyens - (deSitter) - (6) - Sept. 3, 2004, 12:45:18 PM EDT
                         Part of the problem is defining "They" - (ChrisR) - (5) - Sept. 3, 2004, 02:30:43 PM EDT
                             Agreed - (deSitter) - (3) - Sept. 3, 2004, 02:36:39 PM EDT
                                 or closer to home - (ChrisR) - (2) - Sept. 3, 2004, 02:39:59 PM EDT
                                     Washington? No way! MY heroes are nae terrierists! -NT - (deSitter) - Sept. 3, 2004, 02:44:27 PM EDT
                                     Hard to say - (JayMehaffey) - Sept. 3, 2004, 06:01:22 PM EDT
                             The reason Palestineans get sympathy. - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 3, 2004, 04:39:52 PM EDT
                     What they need. - (mmoffitt) - (6) - Sept. 3, 2004, 01:05:53 PM EDT
                         Re: What they need. - (deSitter) - (4) - Sept. 3, 2004, 01:34:42 PM EDT
                             Two reasons - (Arkadiy) - Sept. 3, 2004, 01:48:21 PM EDT
                             It wouldn't stop with Chechnya (19kB .gif) - (Another Scott) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2004, 01:53:08 PM EDT
                                 Finally the truth. It's about the oil! -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Sept. 3, 2004, 03:55:10 PM EDT
                             No, it wouldn't be "right". But, then, ... - (mmoffitt) - Sept. 3, 2004, 04:33:58 PM EDT
                         And then the West Bank? And Tikrit? - (marlowe) - Sept. 4, 2004, 09:20:35 AM EDT
                 Another update - (Arkadiy) - (1) - Sept. 3, 2004, 10:58:29 PM EDT
                     Re: Another update - (Nightowl) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:12:19 AM EDT
         Somebody has to say these, may as well be me - (marlowe) - (28) - Sept. 4, 2004, 09:13:19 AM EDT
             Two things I disagree with - (Nightowl) - (10) - Sept. 4, 2004, 02:15:01 PM EDT
                 172716/172736 - (rcareaga) - (3) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:02:06 PM EDT
                     Sorry - (Nightowl) - (2) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:10:13 PM EDT
                         You misunderstand - (rcareaga) - (1) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:23:11 PM EDT
                             Ah, sorry about that - (Nightowl) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:25:37 PM EDT
                 I'll grant 4a, given latest info, but stand firm on 5 - (marlowe) - (5) - Sept. 7, 2004, 09:12:59 AM EDT
                     "painkillers are addictive" - (jb4) - (3) - Sept. 7, 2004, 10:42:31 AM EDT
                         Tell that to the Democrats, Islamists and the Left. - (marlowe) - (2) - Sept. 10, 2004, 12:45:39 PM EDT
                             What about Chechnya? - (pwhysall) - (1) - Sept. 10, 2004, 04:37:59 PM EDT
                                 A proposal from S. Frederick Starr - (Another Scott) - Sept. 17, 2004, 11:23:58 AM EDT
                     Re: I'll grant 4a, given latest info, but stand firm on 5 - (Nightowl) - Sept. 7, 2004, 12:25:22 PM EDT
             Speaking of cheap talk - (ChrisR) - Sept. 4, 2004, 03:13:22 PM EDT
             Exercise for Marlowe. - (pwhysall) - (15) - Sept. 5, 2004, 02:53:15 AM EDT
                 You forgot to tell him... - (inthane-chan) - (1) - Sept. 5, 2004, 10:19:51 AM EDT
                     Well then, that only leaves - (Ashton) - Sept. 6, 2004, 06:06:57 PM EDT
                 It's very simple, once you decide not to complicate it - (marlowe) - (12) - Sept. 7, 2004, 08:54:04 AM EDT
                     If it's very simple, provide the answer. - (pwhysall) - Sept. 7, 2004, 01:27:38 PM EDT
                     Sounds nice... - (GBert) - (10) - Sept. 8, 2004, 08:36:07 AM EDT
                         OT: Panhandler Joe, is that you? - (Another Scott) - (9) - Sept. 8, 2004, 10:25:08 AM EDT
                             Nope. thats not p-joey -NT - (bepatient) - (4) - Sept. 8, 2004, 10:27:08 AM EDT
                                 Saw the ;-j right? I know he's not; just reminded me of PJ. -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 8, 2004, 10:28:36 AM EDT
                                 PJ is Imric, and Imric is PJ, no? Gainfully employed now -NT - (deSitter) - (2) - Sept. 8, 2004, 11:41:41 AM EDT
                                     back when he was wineing a lot :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - Sept. 8, 2004, 11:56:36 AM EDT
                                         Hey, things were bad! -NT - (imric) - Sept. 8, 2004, 03:25:16 PM EDT
                             Hey hey hey! - (Panhandler Joe) - (1) - Sept. 8, 2004, 11:00:39 AM EDT
                                 :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - Sept. 8, 2004, 11:05:05 AM EDT
                             No, that's "the Italian Stallion" - ciao whinny! -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Sept. 8, 2004, 11:42:30 AM EDT
                                 Ciao, good buddy - (GBert) - Sept. 13, 2004, 03:44:47 PM EDT
         At least 322 dead, al-Qaeda linked group claims responsib. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 4, 2004, 10:31:09 AM EDT
         Claimed purpose was to start regional war. - (Another Scott) - Sept. 7, 2004, 08:10:07 AM EDT

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