I'll grant 4a, given latest info, but stand firm on 5

Post #172,923 by marlowe 9/7/04 9:12:59 AM Reply	I'll grant 4a, given latest info, but stand firm on 5 (Only the letter of 4a, not the spirit.) Comforting words are a painkiller, not a remedy. Painkillers are addictive. Give your condolences if you must, but be sure you know when to stop. The way to comfort the afflicted is to put paid to the affliction. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry is a liar and he doesn't tolerate fights from others. "All the news you wish would go away" [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #172,928 by jb4 9/7/04 10:42:31 AM Reply	"painkillers are addictive" So's hate. Maybe you should wean yourself off of that drug before you go pontificating about any other. jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #173,546 by marlowe 9/10/04 12:45:39 PM Reply	Tell that to the Democrats, Islamists and the Left. They're doing all the hating. All I'm doing is facing the facts. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Kerry is a liar and he doesn't tolerate fights from others. "All the news you wish would go away" [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfire...arlowe/index.html]
Post #173,589 by pwhysall 9/10/04 4:37:59 PM Reply	What about Chechnya? You're noticably silent on that issue. And Northern Ireland. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #174,805 by Another Scott 9/17/04 11:23:58 AM Reply	A proposal from S. Frederick Starr [link\|http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A27550-2004Sep16.html\|Washington Post]: The peace plan on which Duma members and Chechen leaders agreed included the same formula worked out a year earlier: Chechnya's continued legal membership in the Russian Federation, but with firm guarantees that it would enjoy the maximum degree of self-rule and autonomy. Maskhadov was quoted as saying he would accept this outcome as the best way of preserving the ethnic existence of the Chechen people. This lay to rest the red herring of secession about which Putin preached to grieving parents in Beslan after the schoolhouse attack there. In Liechtenstein the two sides differed only on such secondary points as whether Russian or joint Russian-Chechen forces should guard the southern border or whether the rest of Chechnya should be demilitarized. What happened to these initiatives? When asked at a news conference about the first meeting, Putin flatly denied that it had taken place. When word got out about the second, the Russian White House said it was a scheme devised by Boris Berezovsky, a dissident oligarch, to discredit Putin, even though Berezovsky was in no way connected with it. In short, Putin brushed aside the proposals. [...] It is no secret that there are terrorists among revenge-seeking Chechens and that there are radical Islamists among the desperate population of that land. But if Putin persists in painting all Chechens with the same brush of terrorism and Wahhabism, he will block the only remaining path to a peaceful solution and deny Russians and Chechens the only approach known to have the support of responsible figures on both sides. Putin's a big part of the problem, but it's not clear whether anyone is willing or able to stand up to him and force him to moderate his policies. Cheers, Scott.
Post #172,943 by Nightowl 9/7/04 12:25:22 PM Reply	Re: I'll grant 4a, given latest info, but stand firm on 5 (Only the letter of 4a, not the spirit.) Thanks. :) Comforting words are a painkiller, not a remedy. Painkillers are addictive. I agree there too, they aren't a remedy, they just help the victim cope. Give your condolences if you must, but be sure you know when to stop. The way to comfort the afflicted is to put paid to the affliction. Oh absolutely. If you coddle a victim too much, they'll never get past the issue, (ex: if you cater to a rape victim's feaar of going outside, they'll never do it etc.), so you do have to give condolences, but also know when to step back and let the person learn to live with their fears and pains again. Have a good day, Marlowe! :) Nightowl >8# "A determined soul will do more with a rusty monkey wrench than a loafer will accomplish with all the tools in a machine shop." -- Robert Hughes, Australian Art Critic, Writer

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