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New A possible distinction.
Though it may be a corollary of (actual?) forgiveness.

Test case:
I can forgive you but I can never forget..

Some observers of the homo-sap scene suggest that, "holding accounts" signifies some feeling remaining across the spectrum from, Nemesis..........Loving Friendship - and of course it is *all* about emotional judgment; facts have little to do with it all - they're so malleable.

Now as in, don't think of an elephant, for the next 30 minutes! - we realize we cannot command 'forgetting' - but the desire to 'close the books', just might be how that gets started.

ie. a desire to 'remember' is tantamount to not really 'forgiving'. Forgiving, I'd think, is an emotional judgement that an issue is closed / resolved. It may or may not signify a wish for further friendship - if that was tenuous before some incident.

I doubt the concept can be parsed or grokked to fullness, in any event. Prose can't transmit emotion very well, and too few of us are reliable poets. Hell, look at the wannabe and actual suicides (at least those ones characterized as over, ~not forgiving Oneself!)

HTH, but not sure if it does.


Ashton
New reminds me an irish elephant
can never forget a grudge. :)
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
     Thoughts on forgiveness? - (Another Scott) - (45)
         Forgiveness vs restitution - (Brandioch)
         Forgiveness is wonderful; just get even first :) -NT - (hnick)
         Not a false distinction, but is it a worthwhile one? ;) - (tseliot) - (10)
             Yes, I wasn't thinking of legal issues. - (Another Scott) - (9)
                 Not a question of punishment, but of power imbalance - (tseliot) - (8)
                     Interesting historical context. Thanks. - (Another Scott)
                     Heh.. agonistic as in - (Ashton) - (2)
                         Honor - (tseliot) - (1)
                             Ah.. said well enough that - (Ashton)
                     Re: Sincerity & Forgiveness - (brettj) - (3)
                         Value to me? or to our imaginary 1st-century folk? - (tseliot) - (2)
                             Fascinating - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                 Great! I don't mind disagreement... - (tseliot)
         Forgiveness is divine. - (brettj)
         A possible distinction. - (Ashton) - (1)
             reminds me an irish elephant - (boxley)
         The best example of how I think about forgiveness - (boxley) - (1)
             Thanks. - (Another Scott)
         I don't hold with forgiveness - (ben_tilly) - (20)
             Clartification... - (ChrisR) - (14)
                 All of the above - (ben_tilly) - (13)
                     Cheese! whats yer thoughts on TP up or down? :) -NT - (boxley) - (2)
                         You really want to know? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                             Well small chirrun have the same effect - (boxley)
                     Not assigning fault and the relation to forgiveness. - (brettj) - (9)
                         I think you missed my point - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                             Re: I think you missed my point - (brettj) - (7)
                                 Um, not quite - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                     Life is sorta like an onion - (brettj) - (5)
                                         I am mixed on the Asimov quote - (ben_tilly) - (4)
                                             Karma? - (Ashton) - (2)
                                                 Which type of karma? - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                     Between the two, the latter. - (Ashton)
                                             Just being aware of the question is worthwhile. - (brettj)
             Thanks. And a little story. - (Another Scott) - (4)
                 To a woman yes - (boxley)
                 Put it this way... - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                     Thanks. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                     Thanks for some lucid prose. - (Ashton)
         Compassionate feelings that support a willingness to forgive - (brettj) - (4)
             Another incentive for developing that - (Ashton)
             Yes, that occurred to me, too. - (static) - (2)
                 Maybe that's the real question? Who needs forgiveness more? - (brettj) - (1)
                     I think that is situational. - (static)
         My thoughts - (orion)

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