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Post #171,584
by Yendor
8/29/04 11:22:28 PM
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New I'm reminded of that joke...
...that I heard circa December 2000.

Bush and Castro get together on the golf course to make nice-nice. 'Round about the 14th hole, Bush suggests to Fidel, "Ya know, partner, you should really put yourself up to a popular vote by the people of your country. If you win, we'll remove all economic sanctions against Cuba, since you'll be the popularly-elected leader of your country."

Castro responds, "You first."
-YendorMike

"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
- Benjamin Franklin, 1759 Historical Review of Pennsylvania
Post #171,624
by bluke
8/30/04 2:13:25 AM
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New Not really fair
No one tries to win the popular vote. To win the popular vote would require a very different campaign strategy and therefore the popular vote is not a very good indicator of anything.

A good example is people like me who vote in a state that is solidly 1 way. I can vote by absentee ballot in NY, but I am not sure if I will because my vote is meaningless. Kerry is going to win NY by a large margin, therefore my vote whether for or against him is meaningless. Many people in states that are solidly 1 way (either Dem Or Rep) feel this way. For example, in the current system there is no incentive for the Republicans to bother to try get out the vote in NY, it is a waste of time and money. In a popular vote system (or a proportional allocation system) there would be a big incentive to get people out to vote and hopefully more people would vote.
     NY Times called for abolishment of Electoral College - (JayMehaffey) - (20) - Aug. 29, 2004, 12:46:23 PM EDT
         There are good reasons not to get rid of it too. - (Another Scott) - (19) - Aug. 29, 2004, 01:54:31 PM EDT
             There's an amendment up for vote on tnis - (tjsinclair) - Aug. 29, 2004, 04:39:04 PM EDT
             Can't see how it could be worse - (JayMehaffey) - (2) - Aug. 29, 2004, 10:31:57 PM EDT
                 I'm reminded of that joke... - (Yendor) - (1) - Aug. 29, 2004, 11:22:28 PM EDT
                     Not really fair - (bluke) - Aug. 30, 2004, 02:13:25 AM EDT
             Right now the only legitimate Federal elections ... - (bluke) - Aug. 30, 2004, 01:56:42 AM EDT
             Instead the President is chosen by the people of Florida ... - (bluke) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2004, 02:02:32 AM EDT
                 come on down and vote, everyone else in NY does. -NT - (boxley) - Aug. 30, 2004, 10:22:37 AM EDT
             Re: There are good reasons not to get rid of it too. - (jb4) - (1) - Aug. 30, 2004, 11:17:37 AM EDT
                 Nah, they're ok.. - (hnick) - Aug. 30, 2004, 11:41:03 AM EDT
             Broder on proposals to change EC. - (Another Scott) - (9) - Oct. 21, 2004, 12:17:53 PM EDT
                 One thing is guaranteed - (ben_tilly) - Oct. 21, 2004, 12:28:14 PM EDT
                 A great big "Huh?" - (Silverlock) - (6) - Oct. 21, 2004, 02:23:43 PM EDT
                     Depends on how it's done. - (Another Scott) - (5) - Oct. 21, 2004, 02:49:02 PM EDT
                         The number three is a wonderous thing. - (inthane-chan) - Oct. 21, 2004, 03:00:13 PM EDT
                         One major difference: - (jb4) - (3) - Oct. 21, 2004, 06:22:02 PM EDT
                             Gridlock is preferred - (Silverlock) - (2) - Oct. 21, 2004, 09:46:07 PM EDT
                                 Amen corner on that one -NT - (daemon) - Oct. 21, 2004, 09:50:08 PM EDT
                                 Exactly why Eisenhower years were so good. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Oct. 21, 2004, 11:10:11 PM EDT
                 His numbers are specious - (bluke) - Oct. 25, 2004, 04:57:07 AM EDT

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