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New Heh.
The Supreme Court should not have been involved in the pledge case.

I guess you're right. I guess if the State decides to sponsor religion, the USSC should not be asked about it.


[Edit:]

The thing you originally objected to was my obervation that, "The real problem with public school education, imo, is too much right-wing theocratic nonsense infecting academics."

Putting "God" in the classroom is arguably as concrete an example of that as exists. And, btw, as a tot I was coerced into saying the pledge, but the phrase "under God" was not spoken in my classroom in Southern California in the 1960's.
bcnu,
Mikem

If you can read this, you are not the President.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt Aug. 20, 2004, 02:48:44 PM EDT
New I see...
...feet over hot coals? Threat of the whip? And I see it did lasting damage to your psyche as well.

<tongue>Oh, I forget, we only worry about those that are far more feeble minded than we...who were able to make up our own minds even in the face of such strong indoctrination.
</cheek>

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

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     Charter schools - a new education disaster - (deSitter) - (72)
         That is mainly the result of... - (folkert) - (6)
             Re: That is mainly the result of... - (deSitter) - (5)
                 What was that Feynman quote - (Ashton) - (4)
                     ..was a quote from Edward Gibbon - (deSitter)
                     This quote? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         Prec\ufffdsamente eso. - (Ashton) - (1)
                             Found online -NT - (ben_tilly)
         One caution though... - (a6l6e6x)
         That's just Leftist propaganda. - (mmoffitt) - (63)
             Well... - (bepatient) - (62)
                 Apparently Public Schools are the most efficient. - (mmoffitt) - (46)
                     Problem with public schools is that when we went to them - (boxley) - (45)
                         Re: By teaching to the test. - (mmoffitt) - (36)
                             Sure they do - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 I was speaking more of secondary schools. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                             You want to elaborate on that? - (bepatient) - (33)
                                 Sheesh! - (mmoffitt) - (32)
                                     Sheesh 2 - (bepatient) - (31)
                                         ..and the Fright-wing program re schoolboard infiltration Is - (Ashton) - (28)
                                             you would have a real hard time - (bepatient) - (27)
                                                 ***BOGGLE*** - (mmoffitt) - (24)
                                                     DING! Go to your corners - (drewk) - (3)
                                                         One wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                             Read it again - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                 My bad. ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                     Reread the post - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                         Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             I see... - (bepatient)
                                                         I have to agree with BP... - (Simon_Jester) - (16)
                                                             Re: I have to agree with BP... - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                                 ..a Nation under God?__Cthulhu?__Where's:___None-of above? -NT - (Ashton) - (10)
                                                                     Find a state or city that agrees... - (bepatient) - (9)
                                                                         +6.6 for innovation.. -NT - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                                             You shorted me a six, buddy. -NT - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                 Should have been a +6.66, then? ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (6)
                                                                                     now tatoo it on my forhead! -NT - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                         True Seers need no pigmentation to See_____er, :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                                                             True.. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                 Ah.. an afficionado of String-along Theory -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                                 As the anti-Ashton, you must bear THIS mark: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                                                     Nay - "Ka Ching, Ka Ching, Ka Ching". HTH. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                 Differences in opinion.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                                     The problem in Utah.. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                         Ahem, I think if you investigate further... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                             Ok... - (bepatient)
                                                 cha cha cha is copyrighted jimmy durante and copyleft ashton - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     Well.. of 2,760,000 Googlentries - (Ashton)
                                         IC partial LRPD - (deSitter) - (1)
                                             Signed: Oz-ymandias of Egypt -NT - (Ashton)
                         The goals were different when we went to school - (hnick) - (3)
                             Xcellent point. - (mmoffitt)
                             Ah.. a non-digital, thoughtful answer - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                 Re: Ah.. a non-digital, thoughtful answer - - (deSitter)
                         No, they MEMORIZE something. - (folkert) - (3)
                             so say the alphabet without breaking into song - (boxley) - (2)
                                 I FRICKING SAID THAT!!!! - (folkert) - (1)
                                     of course it helps them - (boxley)
                 Wrong question - (jake123) - (14)
                     Define 'success' - (drewk) - (1)
                         The people he talks about - (jake123)
                     Amen brutha - (bepatient) - (11)
                         Few have a problem with comparative religion courses. - (Another Scott)
                         Heh.. if you really Meant that pro-bono bone - (Ashton) - (2)
                             I had such a class. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 + 4 for Possibilities, then.. -NT - (Ashton)
                         Ya but - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                             Exactly - (deSitter)
                         I was taught religion in school - (jake123) - (4)
                             whats the distance between Kingston and peterboro? -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                 Well, they must not be religious anymore - (jake123) - (2)
                                     place has more penatacostals tha Santa Clara has vampires :) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         Well, that explains the smackdown then. -NT - (jake123)

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