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New Define 'success'
If [link|http://www.google.com/search?q=John+Gatto|John Gatto] is right, the schools are very successful.
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
New The people he talks about
liked centralised setting of curriculum... less people to influence. Back in the day, sensible people kept that from happening. Nowadays, though, the sensible people are no longer in the business of making law... only the bought people do that any more.
--\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton                            jake at consultron.ca *\n* [link|http://consultron.ca|http://consultron.ca]                   [link|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] *\n* Kingston Ontario Canada               [link|news://news.consultron.ca|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
     Charter schools - a new education disaster - (deSitter) - (72)
         That is mainly the result of... - (folkert) - (6)
             Re: That is mainly the result of... - (deSitter) - (5)
                 What was that Feynman quote - (Ashton) - (4)
                     ..was a quote from Edward Gibbon - (deSitter)
                     This quote? - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                         Prec\ufffdsamente eso. - (Ashton) - (1)
                             Found online -NT - (ben_tilly)
         One caution though... - (a6l6e6x)
         That's just Leftist propaganda. - (mmoffitt) - (63)
             Well... - (bepatient) - (62)
                 Apparently Public Schools are the most efficient. - (mmoffitt) - (46)
                     Problem with public schools is that when we went to them - (boxley) - (45)
                         Re: By teaching to the test. - (mmoffitt) - (36)
                             Sure they do - (deSitter) - (1)
                                 I was speaking more of secondary schools. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                             You want to elaborate on that? - (bepatient) - (33)
                                 Sheesh! - (mmoffitt) - (32)
                                     Sheesh 2 - (bepatient) - (31)
                                         ..and the Fright-wing program re schoolboard infiltration Is - (Ashton) - (28)
                                             you would have a real hard time - (bepatient) - (27)
                                                 ***BOGGLE*** - (mmoffitt) - (24)
                                                     DING! Go to your corners - (drewk) - (3)
                                                         One wrong. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                                             Read it again - (drewk) - (1)
                                                                 My bad. ;-) -NT - (mmoffitt)
                                                     Reread the post - (bepatient) - (19)
                                                         Heh. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                                             I see... - (bepatient)
                                                         I have to agree with BP... - (Simon_Jester) - (16)
                                                             Re: I have to agree with BP... - (bepatient) - (15)
                                                                 ..a Nation under God?__Cthulhu?__Where's:___None-of above? -NT - (Ashton) - (10)
                                                                     Find a state or city that agrees... - (bepatient) - (9)
                                                                         +6.6 for innovation.. -NT - (Ashton) - (8)
                                                                             You shorted me a six, buddy. -NT - (bepatient) - (7)
                                                                                 Should have been a +6.66, then? ;-) -NT - (n3jja) - (6)
                                                                                     now tatoo it on my forhead! -NT - (bepatient) - (5)
                                                                                         True Seers need no pigmentation to See_____er, :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - (4)
                                                                                             True.. - (bepatient) - (3)
                                                                                                 Ah.. an afficionado of String-along Theory -NT - (Ashton)
                                                                                                 As the anti-Ashton, you must bear THIS mark: - (jb4) - (1)
                                                                                                     Nay - "Ka Ching, Ka Ching, Ka Ching". HTH. :-) -NT - (Another Scott)
                                                                 Differences in opinion.... - (Simon_Jester) - (3)
                                                                     The problem in Utah.. - (bepatient) - (2)
                                                                         Ahem, I think if you investigate further... - (Simon_Jester) - (1)
                                                                             Ok... - (bepatient)
                                                 cha cha cha is copyrighted jimmy durante and copyleft ashton - (boxley) - (1)
                                                     Well.. of 2,760,000 Googlentries - (Ashton)
                                         IC partial LRPD - (deSitter) - (1)
                                             Signed: Oz-ymandias of Egypt -NT - (Ashton)
                         The goals were different when we went to school - (hnick) - (3)
                             Xcellent point. - (mmoffitt)
                             Ah.. a non-digital, thoughtful answer - - (Ashton) - (1)
                                 Re: Ah.. a non-digital, thoughtful answer - - (deSitter)
                         No, they MEMORIZE something. - (folkert) - (3)
                             so say the alphabet without breaking into song - (boxley) - (2)
                                 I FRICKING SAID THAT!!!! - (folkert) - (1)
                                     of course it helps them - (boxley)
                 Wrong question - (jake123) - (14)
                     Define 'success' - (drewk) - (1)
                         The people he talks about - (jake123)
                     Amen brutha - (bepatient) - (11)
                         Few have a problem with comparative religion courses. - (Another Scott)
                         Heh.. if you really Meant that pro-bono bone - (Ashton) - (2)
                             I had such a class. - (bepatient) - (1)
                                 + 4 for Possibilities, then.. -NT - (Ashton)
                         Ya but - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                             Exactly - (deSitter)
                         I was taught religion in school - (jake123) - (4)
                             whats the distance between Kingston and peterboro? -NT - (boxley) - (3)
                                 Well, they must not be religious anymore - (jake123) - (2)
                                     place has more penatacostals tha Santa Clara has vampires :) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                         Well, that explains the smackdown then. -NT - (jake123)

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