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Post #167,057
by jake123
8/1/04 10:51:50 PM
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the filling in of the roman sewers, destroying the baths, and losing the recipe for soap for a thousand years all started and ended well before the pilgrims.

US christianity is not the beginning of that faith.

BTW- he was in fact being quite completely literal when he said, that: not metaphorical in any way. For many years, people who purposefully injured themselves were considered better people for it, and bathing was something that only pagans did, for which they burned.
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Post #167,062
by Nightowl
8/1/04 11:01:35 PM
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New Yes, I'm getting that now
I also realized I was confusing Christianity with religion, hence Drew pointing out that Christ wasn't even known then, so it couldn't have been. I get confused because they keep saying God/Christ/Spirit are all the same, yet different.

And yes, I was viewing the start of it, as U.S. Christianity, not new Testament Christianity, which was my second mistake.

No biggie. I just get a little tired of constantly hearing negative things about religion sometimes, just like you all get tired of Marlowe's rants, or De-Sitter's anti-women crusades.

Wasn't trying to create an uproar.

Nightowl >8#



Note to self: Find new signature soon.
     "Twas ever thus" - (deSitter) - (40) - July 31, 2004, 10:23:33 PM EDT
         Is not to worry - (Andrew Grygus) - (39) - Aug. 1, 2004, 01:20:40 AM EDT
             In answer to your question - (hnick) - (38) - Aug. 1, 2004, 01:21:11 PM EDT
                 Alas, you are not wrong - (Andrew Grygus) - (37) - Aug. 1, 2004, 02:09:41 PM EDT
                     LA Times: "Do the Math" - (deSitter) - Aug. 1, 2004, 02:30:15 PM EDT
                     Bashing religion again - (Nightowl) - (12) - Aug. 1, 2004, 03:02:22 PM EDT
                         Re: Bashing religion again - (deSitter) - Aug. 1, 2004, 03:23:18 PM EDT
                         was not a bash at Christians - (hnick) - (7) - Aug. 1, 2004, 03:30:24 PM EDT
                             I did wink, by the way in case no one noticed. - (Nightowl) - (6) - Aug. 1, 2004, 09:24:55 PM EDT
                                 Learn some bloody history, woman! - (ben_tilly) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2004, 09:39:20 PM EDT
                                     Re: Learn some bloody history, woman! - (Nightowl) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:05:34 PM EDT
                                         Still no excuse - (ben_tilly) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:23:04 PM EDT
                                             I didn't jump down anyone's throat. - (Nightowl) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:27:26 PM EDT
                                 One note - (jake123) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2004, 10:51:50 PM EDT
                                     Yes, I'm getting that now - (Nightowl) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:01:35 PM EDT
                         So quoting the evidence of history is 'bashing'? (new thread) - (Andrew Grygus) - Aug. 1, 2004, 04:25:07 PM EDT
                         Surely you jest, Owlet - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2004, 07:17:03 PM EDT
                             Re: Surely you jest, Owlet - (Nightowl) - Aug. 1, 2004, 09:30:43 PM EDT
                     Is that true? Is it a recent phenomena? - (imric) - (3) - Aug. 1, 2004, 05:13:42 PM EDT
                         It might be a recent phenomen*ON* :-D -NT - (pwhysall) - (2) - Aug. 1, 2004, 06:40:30 PM EDT
                             OK - what's the plural of opus?__of 'Grand Prix'?---er :-\ufffd -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 1, 2004, 07:20:13 PM EDT
                             *smile* - (imric) - Aug. 2, 2004, 01:03:55 AM EDT
                     It explains swaggert et al - (boxley) - (18) - Aug. 1, 2004, 07:21:44 PM EDT
                         Well, I've learned - (Nightowl) - (17) - Aug. 1, 2004, 09:35:58 PM EDT
                             This phrase makes you a maverick - (Ashton) - (1) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:09:03 PM EDT
                                 Yay, someone gets it! - (Nightowl) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:12:33 PM EDT
                             What you've learned - (rcareaga) - (14) - Aug. 1, 2004, 11:20:33 PM EDT
                                 Well, yes, that is grumpy - (Andrew Grygus) - (13) - Aug. 2, 2004, 01:14:24 AM EDT
                                     I can prove The Truth - (Ashton) - Aug. 2, 2004, 04:47:42 AM EDT
                                     unproven? - (rcareaga) - (11) - Aug. 2, 2004, 05:32:31 AM EDT
                                         Absence of evidence means nothing. - (pwhysall) - (10) - Aug. 2, 2004, 06:07:34 AM EDT
                                             Evidence..?___of the by-definition ineffable? Ummm -NT - (Ashton) - Aug. 2, 2004, 06:34:29 AM EDT
                                             Re: Absence of evidence means nothing. - (deSitter) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2004, 06:37:33 AM EDT
                                                 You shouldn't try to read my mind. - (pwhysall) - Aug. 2, 2004, 06:42:27 AM EDT
                                             Yes it does. - (CRConrad) - (6) - Aug. 2, 2004, 06:49:18 AM EDT
                                                 obviously you havnt stopped for a drink at the blue moon - (boxley) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2004, 10:43:29 AM EDT
                                                     Best post in this thread! Thanx, box! -NT - (jb4) - Aug. 2, 2004, 11:31:40 AM EDT
                                                 Why is that in every debate about religion and atheism - (Arkadiy) - (3) - Aug. 2, 2004, 11:02:53 AM EDT
                                                     Strict atheism is also a religion. -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - Aug. 2, 2004, 12:57:36 PM EDT
                                                         For small values of religion. :) -NT - (a6l6e6x) - Aug. 2, 2004, 01:20:46 PM EDT
                                                     To be quite honest - (orion) - Aug. 3, 2004, 01:56:10 AM EDT

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