Something that may perk you up...

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But upgrading beyond ~ 6.0 for many of these kewl 'players' requires even more of crapware getting installed in trays, trying to Call Home. Flash players may be (so far immune) -?- HTF would I know..

But for Ex: Even Real Player 6.0.10 (if I can't do the thing w/Quicktime) rechecks the Start-up program list for bloody "Upgrades + new toys", every time it's used. I must then remember to uncheck the fucking box before shutdown. yada And as for the Beast equivalent.. even more incestuous interactions, I hear.

On this one, I get a box with 'pause' or 'rewind' icons, blank screen even after a certain amount of d/l activity -- yet my current Flash player does most of the stuff I care to see. (I don't get even an "Upgrade to blah" message.)

Thanks, some of us will pass. I prefer KISS to cleaning up the spewings of these Ad-infused recent dodgy releases. One needs an expendable, separate junk-tolerating machine for frequent RRR or the willingness to find out what each one is trying to do to you, rather than for you. That I do not deem 'fun'; others may.

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Post #165,608 by danreck 7/22/04 1:54:38 PM Reply	Something that may perk you up... Even though the Office Suite issue is all but dead, their is still a little life in WordPerfect. At least the commercials are entertaining... [link\|http://www.seewhogotfired.com/\|http://www.seewhogotfired.com/] Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #165,612 by jb4 7/22/04 2:01:02 PM Reply	Requires YAN video streamer Macromedia Flash 7 in this case... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #165,614 by jake123 7/22/04 2:04:05 PM Reply	Yes, it's annoying, isn't it? --\n-------------------------------------------------------------------\n* Jack Troughton jake at consultron.ca \n [link\|http://consultron.ca\|http://consultron.ca] [link\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca\|irc://irc.ecomstation.ca] \n Kingston Ontario Canada [link\|news://news.consultron.ca\|news://news.consultron.ca] *\n-------------------------------------------------------------------
Post #165,616 by Arkadiy 7/22/04 2:11:58 PM Reply	Amazingly tasteless display Let's see: sadistic boss, stupid parody, jocks beating nerds, clown in the funeral house. The first three, in addition to being tasteless, manage to annoy the target audience. -- "...was poorly, lugubrious and intoxicated." -- Patrick O'Brian, "Master and Commander"
Post #165,618 by broomberg 7/22/04 2:24:23 PM Reply	I loved it!
Post #165,636 by tuberculosis 7/22/04 4:34:12 PM Reply	The portrayal of Clippy in the first one was spot on The others didn't do anything for me. That was lovely cheese. --Wallace, The Wrong Trousers
Post #165,651 by Arkadiy 7/22/04 5:37:49 PM Reply	Yes, the Clippy was great Cut the beginning, cut the end - the middle was good, I agree. -- "...was poorly, lugubrious and intoxicated." -- Patrick O'Brian, "Master and Commander"
Post #165,669 by Silverlock 7/22/04 8:39:44 PM Reply	Clippy was great. I got a minor chuckle here and there with the others. Mostly though, I noticed how crappy the setup and delivery was. Even (especially?)tasteles jokes need something called timing. ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #165,774 by danreck 7/23/04 2:29:30 PM Reply	Well, what do you expect? WP isn't exactly a high budget company anymore... I don't know what the tie in is with Corel, but I receive their electronic newsletter (which included this link). I could seriously relate to the Clippy add in that I have been doing a major MFAC presentation (on Powerpoint, of course) this whole week and I would have loved to have whupped Clippy's ass on a number of occasions. I also have a soft spot for the babies/toddlers one. Guess it's 'cause I still got young ones. But I see a similarity in the mannerisms of babes and corporate execs. Had they put the clowns in the boardroom it would have been more appropo... Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #165,619 by ben_tilly 7/22/04 2:32:13 PM Reply	It doesn't play on my machine :-( To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #165,655 by danreck 7/22/04 6:20:17 PM 7/22/04 6:21:13 PM Reply	Re: It doesn't play on my machine :-( Sorry 'bout that... What is your machine? Does it not support a common media player like Flash? I mean, mine is a Mac OSX Panther box running Camino (a Mozilla build) with Flash. Are you still using Lynx? I mean, I don't complain about all the links posted here that are asking for my email address to major metro newspapers... Now do I? ;-) There is a lot of content on the WWW in 2004. Mayhaps you should explore the possibility of checking some of it out. Just a few thoughts, Danno Edited by danreck July 22, 2004, 06:21:13 PM EDT Expand All History
Post #165,660 by Ashton 7/22/04 7:01:12 PM Reply	Yes, there sure is.. But upgrading beyond ~ 6.0 for many of these kewl 'players' requires even more of crapware getting installed in trays, trying to Call Home. Flash players may be (so far immune) -?- HTF would I know.. But for Ex: Even Real Player 6.0.10 (if I can't do the thing w/Quicktime) rechecks the Start-up program list for bloody "Upgrades + new toys", every time it's used. I must then remember to uncheck the fucking box before shutdown. yada And as for the Beast equivalent.. even more incestuous interactions, I hear. On this one, I get a box with 'pause' or 'rewind' icons, blank screen even after a certain amount of d/l activity -- yet my current Flash player does most of the stuff I care to see. (I don't get even an "Upgrade to blah" message.) Thanks, some of us will pass. I prefer KISS to cleaning up the spewings of these Ad-infused recent dodgy releases. One needs an expendable, separate junk-tolerating machine for frequent RRR or the willingness to find out what each one is trying to do to you, rather than for you. That I do not deem 'fun'; others may. Luddites for Leisure not Lore
Post #165,661 by inthane-chan 7/22/04 7:17:07 PM Reply	Realplayer Enterprise [link\|http://forms.real.com/rnforms/products/tools/red/\|http://forms.real.co...oducts/tools/red/] It's RealPlayer, minus the overt adverts and crapware, other than being a RealPlayer in the first place. I deploy it internally when somebody has to see a realplayer stream for work purposes. Flash and Shockwave are both (at this time) unencumbered with Extra Crap. WANTED: Precognitive Telepath for adventuring Partnership. You know where to apply.
Post #165,662 by Ashton 7/22/04 7:24:16 PM Reply	Thanks, but: Platform: Windows NT/2000/XP (If 98-lite ever becomes unuseable on web, likely it's Apple por moi; much as I hate the thought of learning YAN OS) Ah well.. a friend has been using a generic player with apparent success. As it is unencumbered, I'll likely give that one a try.
Post #165,659 by broomberg 7/22/04 6:36:13 PM Reply	Flash7 / Firefox / RH 9 - works
Post #165,667 by ben_tilly 7/22/04 8:15:00 PM Reply	Yeah, I've got Flash 6 here To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #165,685 by deSitter 7/22/04 10:46:42 PM Reply	Theier awl Canediens, eh? -drl

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