Post #161,114
6/22/04 7:44:50 PM
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This situ like similar others poses the question ...
Is the phrase 'a resonable woman' an oxymoron ?
:-)
Cheers & good luck. Doug
PS: Also 10 points for seeking advice, weighing up options & acting. A healthy sign & a good indicator that you can navigate your way thru the minefields.
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"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!".
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Post #161,116
6/22/04 7:55:29 PM
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You missed something
He sought opinions AFTER he acted.
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Post #161,121
6/22/04 8:47:27 PM
6/22/04 8:48:50 PM
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If so - yes I did miss that
But, I thought he originally said he had 'made a decision' but not yet acted on it.
Doug
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"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!".
-- Leonardo Da Vinci
Edited by dmarker
June 22, 2004, 08:48:50 PM EDT
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Post #161,123
6/22/04 9:07:49 PM
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Actually I did ask for opinions prior to making decision
I asked some female coworkers and friends. They all said that I should go with my daughter to encourage/build our relationship.
I posted here to get the "male" (most of the Iwetheyers are male) opinion. You, the group, validated my decision. As I said, I could see it from her point. And after I got back, it was very obvious that my wife wasn't so much mad as hurt.
Yes, Doug, I have sought advice, professional, friends, church, and here. I know my choices and options. Somehow I manage to keep looking on (for) the bright side.
I really do appreciate all the comments, both good and bad. I need BOTH to make informed decisions. As usual, I retain the right to make bad decisions just because I want to make a bad decision. :-)
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Post #161,150
6/22/04 11:59:18 PM
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You asked opinions. Did you ask for HER opinion?
Nowhere in the list of people you asked is there a sign that you asked your wife's opinion.
The act of discussing a decision, even when you know how you'll make it, is often a valuable exercise. Sure, it may be obvious what decision you'll come to. And if the case was presented to her, she may obviously agree with your decision. But talking with her first tells her that you care about her opinion. Not talking with her first says that you don't care about her opinion.
Doing things that she can perceive as saying that you don't care about her is never a good thing.
Keep her in the loop. Even if you are willing to override anything she says in this particular case.
Cheers,
Ben
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Post #161,153
6/23/04 12:48:55 AM
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I thought this whole exercise was in response to her opinion
I think Joe spelled it out in two ways. At the start he highlighted his dilema & why it was so, esp in realtion to wife's reaction.
In his most recent posts he showed he cared about his wife's opinion & it seems he is doing the delicate dance needed to now smooth out her need for reassurance.
I was happy to participate, felt his Father's day dinner choice was good & am sure he will now swing his attention to dealing with his wife's needs.
I don't mind a bit of real life challenges floating through the forums. We all have an opportunity to see how others think about things & that in turn polishes our own thinking.
Cheers
Doug
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Post #161,161
6/23/04 6:50:46 AM
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Yes, I did ask her opinion
and as Doug pointed out, her reaction was that it was rude of my daughter to exclude her (wife). And that she would NEVER do that to me, and would NEVER allow her daughters to even ask her out without including me. (of course since they don't drive and she doesn't drive, I usually HAVE to be included)
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Post #161,166
6/23/04 8:42:52 AM
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sticks snout into your business
My mother never drove until my father had a stroke at age 40, we both learned to drive at the same time. My wife was afraid to drive and it took a couple of years before I got her behind the wheel. Gently force her to learn as the ability to take keys in hand and go somewhere NOW is a very self confidence building ability. Suggest she learn and ask her who is going to drive you to the docs when you get incapacitated.
thanx,
bill
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518
I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke
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Post #161,240
6/23/04 2:21:42 PM
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She is handicapped.
Doesn't have any strength in right leg. Could never move leg from accerator to brake to stop in case of emergency. She was looking forward to learning prior to her injury. Her ex had refused to allow her to drive/take the test, so she never learned. I was starting to teach her when she fell.
She was an excellent bus navigator, now she cannot get to the bus stop (1/2 mile away).
Oldest daughter has gotten her license and could take mom in an emergency.
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Post #161,241
6/23/04 2:23:14 PM
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put the acellerator and brake on the column
but they do get pricey
thanx
bill
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518
I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #161,242
6/23/04 2:25:38 PM
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I have a friend who is a quad
Some functionality in the arms, poor motor control in the hands.
He drives.
He also is a mean ping pong player. Sometimes I am amazed and proud that I beat a quadrapalegic. I'm sweating bullets when we are done.
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Post #161,243
6/23/04 2:27:46 PM
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For the times that she would need to drive -- too expensive.
Cheaper to get daughter or friend or even mobility taxi.
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Post #161,249
6/23/04 3:01:36 PM
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Too bad there's no ping-pong table at beeps :-(
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
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Post #161,270
6/23/04 5:19:47 PM
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why you wanna try to beat the quad? :-)
drunks and ping pong dont mix
thanx,
bill
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518
I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #161,272
6/23/04 5:23:27 PM
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Drunks go with pool tables...
...cause you can use the table and/or poolstick to keep from falling over.
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Post #161,273
6/23/04 5:23:54 PM
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Even drunk I beat most people handily
I'm not very good at ping-pong. I've met good, and know that I don't have any hope of being there. But to the general public, I'll pass.
Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
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Post #161,300
6/23/04 6:46:26 PM
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He's Good
[link|http://www.dougheir.com/index.html|http://www.dougheir.com/index.html]
[link|http://www.dougheir.com/PhotoGallery1/|http://www.dougheir.com/PhotoGallery1/]
I should have included him in my famous people list.
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Post #161,302
6/23/04 7:05:39 PM
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yea he is.
Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518
I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
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Post #161,316
6/23/04 8:28:46 PM
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I'm impressed
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
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Post #161,321
6/23/04 9:01:09 PM
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You should try to lift his bag of medals
My friend Bill lived with him for a while. Hangs out with him a couple of days a week now. I see him occasionally, help with his computers, play with his dog. Bill travels with him to Olympic events, and spends a lot of time at his shore house and the AC casinos.
This guy has literally dozens of women going after him. He can't leave his phone on during a date because 4 or 5 will call.
For a while I went over his house to feed his dog Zeus. Great Dane. Outweighed me. Stood higher than me.
And occasionally we play ping pong. He tapes the paddle to his hand. Stays in 1 position in his wheel chair. And can reach both side of the table with the single hand. Quickly. Can play forehand and backhand just as well. And manages to drop the ball on my side the farthest possible distance from me. I run my ass off.
I have a really good spinning serve that sometimes can get by him. Other than that, I cheat. There is a certain point near the net he can't reach. So I try to lightly drop the ball right there.
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Post #161,322
6/23/04 9:02:44 PM
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Think he'd be up for a game Friday night?
Say, about 10PM or so?
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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Post #161,323
6/23/04 9:04:03 PM
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No
He'll be on a date, or on the way to the casino with Bill.
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Post #161,325
6/23/04 9:08:40 PM
6/23/04 11:58:35 PM
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Begone
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Post #161,332
6/23/04 9:30:24 PM
6/24/04 12:00:05 AM
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Gracias
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
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Edited by ben_tilly
June 24, 2004, 12:00:05 AM EDT
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Post #161,342
6/23/04 10:11:34 PM
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Hey admin!!!
Please, important. Wipe out the above post.
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Post #161,357
6/24/04 12:01:12 AM
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Bleh.
Y'all owe me for this one.
Regards,
-scott anderson
"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
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Post #161,359
6/24/04 12:04:52 AM
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Agreed
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Post #161,369
6/24/04 1:12:22 AM
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{cackle}_____{cackle}___Ah... IWE____________{glorp}
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Post #161,368
6/24/04 1:11:12 AM
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Indeed I do
One bottomless beer coming up at beeps ifn you want it.
Thanks,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
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Post #161,393
6/24/04 8:03:35 AM
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No, that's what he does to you
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Post #161,402
6/24/04 9:08:48 AM
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With prodding from someone else...
He almost gave up early.
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