this would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic Oz sword control

Post #159,573 by boxley 6/11/04 12:51:10 PM Reply	this would be funny if it wasnt so pathetic Oz sword control [link\|http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38896\|http://www.worldnetd...?ARTICLE_ID=38896] According to a report in the Melbourne Herald Sun, the new statute slaps owners of swords who don't have a permit with up to six months in jail and fines of up to $12,000. you would think that they would just ban assault swords, or limit the amount of swords you could carry. Or get a fucking clue. "Thats not a sword ossifer, thats a broadax so piss off." thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,576 by admin 6/11/04 12:58:36 PM Reply	Oi, you there! That's a dangerous weapon, that is! Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #159,580 by boxley 6/11/04 1:16:01 PM Reply	I'm a lumberjack! and its afternoon and me guts are bad! Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,586 by Arkadiy 6/11/04 1:37:30 PM Reply	While in Florida, I looked longingly at a stiletto concealed as stack/walking stick . The shop owner informed me that I need a concealed weapon permit to purchace this beauty. always wanted to have something like that, but A) I am not old enough to look credible with a walking stick and B) it was over my price range ( $20 :( ) -- Buy high, sell sober.
Post #159,635 by Ashton 6/11/04 10:22:05 PM Reply	Mordant LRPD: I see... dead people
Post #159,639 by boxley 6/11/04 10:27:21 PM Reply	Ya really want one? Ill keep an ete out at garage sales, the guy was putting you on, perhaps the accent threw him off. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,646 by Simon_Jester 6/11/04 10:56:52 PM Reply	Owning isn't the problem... but carrying it in public is. Technically, it would be a weapon (blade length over 4") and it would be concealed. Not that getting a concealed weapons permit in Florida is hard. You can get a concealed firearm permit in (iirc) a 45 minute class. I can't imagine a concealed weapon's permit to be any harder than that. The bad news of Oz's weapons ban is for martial arts performing Tamigiri (test cutting). Live samuri blades aren't cheap to begin with (minimum $200 us, with prices climbing fast into the thousands for custom blades). Now those people are going to have to get permits, etc. just to keep their blades.
Post #159,649 by boxley 6/11/04 11:19:32 PM Reply	even worse cop: oy gimmee that sword! its not a sword, its a pointy stick!!! cop: you'll put an eye out! I intend to fuck orff!! thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,669 by dmarker 6/12/04 4:11:14 AM Reply	Oz problem has been 2 many samurai wannabees ... Romping down main streets of Melbourne threatening people. For some bizzare reason Melbourne (Rand take note!) is the samurai warrior wannabe capital of the world. On a per-capita basis more Melburnians fancy they can dress in asian style pantaloons take a katana and walk the streets in a drug (or some other) induced frenzy, waving the sword & doing so until Melbourn's notorious trigger-happy cops, shoot them. Cheers Doug M Some anecdotal evidence ... [link\|http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/01/05/1073267968024.html?oneclick=true\|http://www.theage.co...tml?oneclick=true] [link\|http://www.smh.com.au/articles/2002/04/30/1019441367104.html?oneclick=true\|http://www.smh.com.a...tml?oneclick=true] [link\|http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2004/03/08/1078594297517.html?from=storyrhs\|http://www.theage.co...tml?from=storyrhs] WHERE IT ALL BEGAN (PS I can recite chapter & verse all the Nija clans from this TV show plus all the names of the key participants - as kids we were mesmerised by this culturally dramatic & different TV series) [link\|http://www.alphalink.com.au/~roglen/samurai.htm\|http://www.alphalink...oglen/samurai.htm] _________________________________________________________ "Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!". -- Leonardo Da Vinci
Post #159,690 by boxley 6/12/04 11:56:53 AM Reply	outlaw stupid gits, not swords Swords arnt outlawed here but if I carried a broadsword into a grocery store I would have a nice deputy asking my intentions, if he didnt like the answer or I was threatening the nice deputy would blow me into kingdom come and all is well with the world. If I said I was on my way to the largo fair he would assist in carrying the beer to the car. Outlawing swords is an asinine thing to do. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,692 by Another Scott 6/12/04 3:26:22 PM Reply	I thought I told this story before ... but it doesn't seem to show up in Site Search. When I was 5 or so in kindergarten I took my father's Navy dress sword to show-and-tell. It wasn't sharp, but pointy and was definitely a sword. The teacher seemed a little surprised, IIRC, but it was no big deal. I'd hate to think how an act like that would be regarded today... I would like to whole-heartedly agree with you, but the "yes, but" side of me keeps thinking of exceptions. There aren't enough police to keep a lookout for all the idiots out there. Some things shouldn't be carried around in public. "Hi officer, I carry these nunchaku and this battle axe with me because I like to do exercises while I'm waiting for my morning train. I have no idea why everyone ran screaming from the platform..." Cheers, Scott.
Post #159,697 by boxley 6/12/04 5:02:49 PM Reply	well around here someone with concealed carry permit would show why private ownership of guns is a good deterrent. Cops can only investigate after the fact. Its up to the individual to secure their safety. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 Asking the mole if he liked a pair of shoes was like asking a cat if he liked algebra: Andrew Vachss questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #159,684 by Arkadiy 6/12/04 9:31:19 AM Reply	Oh, it's quite capable of ruining your digestion If you know what I mean. -- Buy high, sell sober.
Post #159,848 by Gibbo 6/14/04 8:37:52 AM 6/15/04 1:09:58 AM Reply	A potentially effected view Being a participant in historical European Martial Arts I have heard much discussion about the legislation. Admittedly none was in favour. It has been mentioned that there was a slight variation on the law that specified whether the blade was sharp or blunt. If it was blunt as used by most re-enactors or recreators then it was exempt. However, if it had an edge then it was classified as offensive. I have yet to meet anybody who studies historical fencing that would be likely to go on a rampage with a blade. I agree that the law is silly. However, it is also ridiculous that any idiot can by a sharpened blade from a sports store like 'Planet Max'. It is worth noting that as a serious weapon most of the blades from the sports suppliers wouldn't last more than a couple of blows in a bout with another weapon whether of the same quality or 'combat ready'. By the way you can't swash-buckle with just a sword. You need a buckler (small rounded shield) on hand as well. The phrase originates from the 16th century where gangs of youths (much like todays trouble makers :-) ) would roam the streets 'swashing' swords against bucklers to announce their presence and challenge for a fight. Edited by Gibbo June 14, 2004, 08:39:17 AM EDT Edited by Gibbo June 15, 2004, 01:09:58 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #159,955 by boxley 6/15/04 8:12:13 AM Reply	or a camping store, or a kitchen supplier or a hockey store sharpened edge is pretty low tech. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #160,051 by Gibbo 6/15/04 6:52:23 PM 6/16/04 7:02:32 AM Reply	Some say size is not important. Sure a sharpened edge is low tech, however, there are some even more basic options that don't require much tech. Someone who was serious about killing someone would in fact consider options other than a sword. A sword is too cumbersome for most people, rather hard to conceal on ones body, a bit expensive to be used disposably, and is not quite the 'ultimate' weapon it is perceived to be. According to a copper I've spoken to the commonest impaling device is actually a screwdriver. It doesn't require much in the way of sharpening. Just having a wedge and a stiff shaft is all that's needed to penetrate. A fine edge is more essential for cutting blades like for example a kitchen knife. In terms of effective melee weapons one can come out quite well with stiff shaft like perhaps a walking stick or a pvc pipe. So yes I agree the intent of the legislation is an over reaction to the perceived threat of swords being on the streets. Following the concern of the legislation they might have to ban walking sticks from all those geriatric gangsters and watch out for those gangs of home-improvement hooligans...:-) Edited by Gibbo June 15, 2004, 08:50:29 PM EDT Edited by Gibbo June 16, 2004, 07:02:32 AM EDT Expand All History
Post #160,058 by boxley 6/15/04 8:33:50 PM Reply	a beer bottle is a foin weapon not like in the movies, grasp bottom in palm ofhand and jab for throat or solar plexus, push thru, guarrantied a show stopper. thanx, bill Anchorage AK: House for sale 3 bed 1 bath 1440 sq feet huge lot near Cheney Lake 175K FSBO 813.273.3518 I wondered what Darwinian moment had to effect itself before we devolved from children flying paper flags in the sky to half formed creatures thundering in a wall of horns down the road to Roncevaux. James Lee Burke questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]

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