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New Repeat?
Will she be 18 the next time she sees you?
You are going to have to accept that this relationship is changed.
Either treat her as an adult who happens to be a guest at your house, or you will never have a civil time with her again. This means she comes and goes at will, and sleeps with whoever she wants.

If she needs money, you can attempt to negotiate, but don't ever expect to enfore your moraility on her again.
New Enforced morality
There is such a thing as "house rules" and parental respect.

If she doesn't want to obey house rules (no sex in our house, let us know where she is going and when to expect her return, etc) then she can move out. She has already played that threat. I told her "go ahead".

I'm used to all of the girls dis'n me. However, when they start on their own mom, that's too far. They can make those statements from their own residence, not ours.
New You lied
You've already said that you've caught them multiple times.
Yet they still live there.
Which in turn means you really would like them to hide it better.
Which means you would prefer to be lied to then have direct and honest conversations.

We've just crossed into Ashton's Crazy Aunt Martha. Everyone knows she's there, but polite company would not discuss her.
New Not quite crazy
We have had the frank open discussion about what teenage boys want and what that causes and could lead into. And I have offered birth control options.

Mom lives in the fantasy world where her daughters would never do that.

So the house rule is NO SEX. When boyfriend is here, doors must be open. Since my wife is handicapped and cannot easily negotiate the stairs, it's up to me to "make the rounds". I have never caught them in "the act", just teenage fumbling and groping. His hands under her clothing, her hands grabbing his crotch, things like that. Pisses the daughter off every time she "gets caught".

Just trying to preserve mom's fantasy.
New I support you on the rules ...
Did same with my 3 girls only to find out the oldest had obeyed rules but once she was home & we were asleep, had climbed out her window & was off.

We never knew. Only found out many years later.

Seems that head-strong girls at that age can be damned head-strong.

That daughter is now a mom with 5 of her own :-) one coming up to same age she was when she did her exploring.

Doug M

(you have double my sympathy re being step da)
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"Blinding ignorance does mislead us. O! Wretched mortals, open your eyes!".

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Expand Edited by dmarker June 10, 2004, 04:59:44 PM EDT
New Oh, boy.
Susan is about as headstrong as they get. So is my mom.

I hope there's some submissive genes somewhere in there that get expressed in any daughters I might have... :P
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
     Runaway - (jbrabeck) - (76)
         Called the Army yet? - (drewk) - (3)
             Not yet - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                 I vote for #3. Fingers crosssed for all of you. -NT - (Another Scott)
                 Since she has a 6pm report time - (boxley)
         Good luck, sincerely hope nothing happened to her -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Good luck. Hope it works out well. -NT - (hnick)
         Good luck with resolution, Joe! -NT - (a6l6e6x)
         Sorry to hear that. - (inthane-chan)
         Re: Runaway - (deSitter) - (4)
             No need - (ChrisR)
             Ross, are u forgetting your own youth ... - (dmarker) - (2)
                 Re: Ross, are u forgetting your own youth ... - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Re: Ross, are u forgetting your own youth ... - (dmarker)
         That's harsh - (cforde) - (1)
             Re: That's harsh - (deSitter)
         Hope it sorts itself out ok. Delicate age but it passes ... - (dmarker)
         Found her yet? - (broomberg) - (1)
             Actually 17 is legal age for Girls to do the Army thing. -NT - (folkert)
         Found and off to Army - (jbrabeck) - (48)
             Re: Found and off to Army - (deSitter) - (11)
                 If I can find ANY proof that BF mom knew where she was - (jbrabeck)
                 Learning her lesson... - (ChrisR) - (9)
                     Re: Learning her lesson... - (deSitter) - (8)
                         Er, what? - (admin) - (3)
                             Re: Er, what? - (deSitter) - (2)
                                 Either way, you were responding to Chris' post... -NT - (admin) - (1)
                                     Re: Either way, you were responding to Chris' post... - (deSitter)
                         You rang? - (Another Scott) - (3)
                             Re: You rang? - (deSitter) - (2)
                                 Wonder why. IANAPG. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                                     Where's the LRPD: When someone asks if you're a god.... - (ChrisR)
             She's going reserves? - (drewk) - (31)
                 Split Training - (jbrabeck) - (30)
                     Especially if... - (folkert) - (29)
                         you a baaad man -NT - (boxley)
                         If I wasn't the responsible parent - (jbrabeck) - (9)
                             When you find out - (folkert) - (2)
                                 Re: When you find out - (deSitter) - (1)
                                     No need to get in my knickers. - (folkert)
                             Repeat? - (broomberg) - (5)
                                 Enforced morality - (jbrabeck) - (4)
                                     You lied - (broomberg) - (3)
                                         Not quite crazy - (jbrabeck) - (2)
                                             I support you on the rules ... - (dmarker) - (1)
                                                 Oh, boy. - (inthane-chan)
                         You forgot to include the essentials - (ben_tilly) - (16)
                             Lipstick kiss mark on the seal -- and "s,w.a.k." -NT - (drewk)
                             Lucky pants! -NT - (pwhysall)
                             Ben, have you SEEN teenage girl underwear lately? - (jbrabeck) - (13)
                                 The word is "thong". - (admin) - (5)
                                     I used "underwear" 'cuz Ben did. I KNOW the word - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                         :-D -NT - (admin)
                                     Butt floss. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                         then dont wear em! -NT - (boxley)
                                         You mean she doesn't wipe? eeyew. ;-j -NT - (jbrabeck)
                                 STOP THAT! - (drewk) - (5)
                                     Yer DOOOOOOOOOOMED! - (admin) - (2)
                                         Keep 'em away, ya hear!? -NT - (drewk)
                                         no SHIT! - (mmoffitt)
                                     If they are 2 or under, you have 10 years. - (jbrabeck) - (1)
                                         4 in July, 2 in January -NT - (drewk)
                                 And this is a problem? - (ben_tilly)
                         I was thinking about your suggestion - (jbrabeck)
             Makes perfect sense - (broomberg) - (1)
                 Me, no, Mom, Yes. - (jbrabeck)
             Ah, root cause - (boxley)
             glad she was found - (cforde)
         Belated, as usual, but sincerely hoping it all worked out. - (CRConrad) - (2)
             funny, doesnt look like a fresh haircut :-) -NT - (boxley)
             I hope you got them all cut. - (folkert)
         Glad to hear she's safe. Sorry I didn't see this until now. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
             Thanks, and one word of advice - (jbrabeck)
         Now that she's been found ... - (drewk) - (1)
             ROFL! -NT - (jbrabeck)
         She didn't have to go - (broomberg) - (1)
             She enlisted in NG, not DEP. - (jbrabeck)

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