Tribal conflict grown large.

Post #15,879 by Silverlock 10/31/01 12:16:48 PM Reply	Tribal conflict grown large. One of the defining aspects of a tribe is it's religion. Different religion = different tribe, different tribe = enemy. Don Richards, Proud recipient of the ABBA.
Post #15,892 by marlowe 10/31/01 2:14:06 PM Reply	Not always Pagan groups kill each other, and invoke their gods for support - even when the enemies have more or less the same gods. It's a case of our statue of Oogabooga is better than your statue of Oogabooga. Idolatry blurs the distinction between religious sentiment and civic pride. And some people have killed each other without even bothering to come up with a justification, beyond "well, we all die eventually anyway, so what the hell." [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/ca3/marlowe/index.html\|http://www.angelfir...e/index.html] Sometimes "tolerance" is just a word for not dealing with things.
Post #15,898 by Silverlock 10/31/01 2:43:29 PM Reply	True Another aspect can probably be described as the "rationalization of desires". I want your stuff but forcibly taking it marks me as a bully to all the other tribes/nations. Saying "God requires me to save you infidels from yourselves, even if it means killing you" gets me off the hook. Don Richards, Proud recipient of the ABBA.
Post #16,031 by JayMehaffey 11/1/01 9:55:43 AM Reply	The funny thing The funny thing about that is that Islam contains a rather strong condemnation of fighting other Muslims, particularly for tribal reasons. Muslims are supposed to go kill the heathens, not each other. But the Muslims have never really followed the rules in the Koran about treating every other Muslim as a brother. Even at the peak of Islamic culture, Muslims of Arabian decent considered themselves better then Muslims from other regions. And through out Islamic history there have been sects of Muslims fighting against each other, and various tribal groups that follow Islam have been in fighting since well before the religion existed. Jay
Post #16,070 by Ashton 11/1/01 3:29:52 PM Reply	Well.. yes, which may be why 'Religion' - the very concept itself, of ~ Meta-allegiance to an internally imagined 'personal God who Loves Me Myself Specially' / via voices in my head / and must be obeyed, no matter what those 'instructions'* mean for my next actions towards fellow homo-saps all around. * as I decode then unerringly.. of course! - may be listed on the death certificate for the species, as cause of expiry. (Should anyone have time for a grave-stone amidst the debris.) The nukes are only the EZ means, not the proximate cause. cf. The Origin of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind, Julian Jaynes - for one story at 11. Pace pace O Mio Dio

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