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New All of the above ^^^
As neat a summary gathered in one place, as I've seen in a while. Marx was never more keenly observant than in creating the phrase [perhaps borrowed, as most things Aren't new]

..the opiate of the masses.

* Drugs, steel chains, oppression - are far less effective than the coopting of language itself; inculcating into children a belief-system impervious to reason or even - continued survival of the entire species. With the concept of God firmly ingrained: no human atrocity is impermissible next, as God represents the Mystery = Anything Goes. {shudder}

..Ours not to reason why... Natch. da capo

* per tse's sig.

Works on this planet. (No antitoxin seen, which doesn't need generations to effect)



A.
Expand Edited by Missing User 70 Oct. 31, 2001, 06:41:54 PM EST
New You got that right.
This was an impressive thread, especially after I feared the responses could get ugly.
New brettj ugly is as ugly does
the people here can jump someone when ox is gored or stupidity trumpeted. That was not the case in the question asked.
Let us start a religion.
first define who we are.
What we believe is identified with clear definitions of what is not acceptable to us, either behaviorly or materialistically. This clearly defines those who are not us.
Since those who are not us, by our own definition are inferior, our relationships to them is fractionable. This leads to strife, theft and violence. No religion of any creed judeo based or not is exempt. Egypt and Sumeria, Sparta existed before G_d spoke to Moses and they had standing armies. By definition you do not have a standing army without expectation of killing.
thanx,
bill
tshirt front "born to die before I get old"
thshirt back "fscked another one didnja?"
New And wicked is as wicked does.
Is that what you are getting at?

It's similar to "stupid is as stupid does", ie don't call me stupid unless I commit stupid acts.
(remembering the distinction between ignorance and stupidity)

Notice the similarity to "wicked is as wicked does", ie don't call me wicked unless I commit evil acts.
New duplicate post. (erased)
Expand Edited by brettj Nov. 1, 2001, 02:25:04 AM EST
New I think it's rather a good demonstration, actually...
... of "There is no one right answer." :-)

Wade.

"All around me are nothing but fakes
Come with me on the biggest fake of all!"

New LRPD- 'Incidentally, my Liege, this is how we know
the world to be banana-shaped'.

...Perhaps there is One true Oracle, with added advantage: none has seen Her face!
     Why are Religion and War so often tied together? - (brettj) - (22)
         What could be more important? - (addison) - (2)
             Moravians. - (Another Scott) - (1)
                 Oh, yeah. *duh*. - (addison)
         Bad news - (JayMehaffey)
         They are seen as mutually supporting means to liberation -NT - (tseliot)
         Tribal conflict grown large. - (Silverlock) - (4)
             Not always - (marlowe) - (1)
                 True - (Silverlock)
             The funny thing - (JayMehaffey) - (1)
                 Well.. yes, which may be why - (Ashton)
         You cant have an US without a THEM that starts it all -NT - (boxley)
         All of the above ^^^ - (Ashton) - (6)
             You got that right. - (brettj) - (5)
                 brettj ugly is as ugly does - (boxley) - (2)
                     And wicked is as wicked does. - (brettj)
                     duplicate post. (erased) -NT - (brettj)
                 I think it's rather a good demonstration, actually... - (static) - (1)
                     LRPD- 'Incidentally, my Liege, this is how we know - (Ashton)
         Personally... - (ChrisR) - (3)
             Is there a(n actual) difference, in the end? -NT - (Ashton) - (2)
                 In Dollar we Trust? - (ChrisR) - (1)
                     Am reminded of a particular quote. - (static)

You can put makeup on a pig. It's still a pig.
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