Mirrored drives.

Post #158,073 by inthane-chan 6/2/04 8:56:01 AM Reply	Mirrored drives. RAID 0. RAID 5. Nightly backups. Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #158,092 by lincoln 6/2/04 10:59:04 AM Reply	Links on how to set one up? Any and all knowledge will be appreciated. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #158,097 by inthane-chan 6/2/04 11:14:12 AM Reply	For Win98? Iffn' you're going to be using Win98, you won't be able to do this from within the OS itself. You'll have to get one of those fancy-schmancy RAID controllers. [link\|http://www.newegg.com/app/ViewProductDesc.asp?description=16-115-002&depa=1\|http://www.newegg.co...16-115-002&depa=1] Try this one, reviews seem pretty good. The way it works is you buy 4 or 8 hard drives, attach all to the card. When you boot the machine, it gives you an additional option during the POST sequence to enter the controller's BIOS. From there, you have a whole host of options to follow through, that reconfigure those hard drives to be one "big" drive. As far as Windows 98 goes, it thinks you just have one giant hard drive, with parity bits. If a drive fails, you replace the drive, and the RAID system restores the data from the parity bits on to that drive. If you're excessively paranoid, do a 4-way mirror. :) Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #158,123 by deSitter 6/2/04 1:07:20 PM Reply	Screw Win98 If your forced to use Windows get XP Pro and use IDE disk mirroring. You attach one disk to the primary and one to the secondary interface. It works great, and occasionally you can break the mirror and back up the inactive drive without any interference from open files. -drl
Post #158,139 by lincoln 6/2/04 2:37:38 PM Reply	Can't XP would require a whole new box - this is a PII 400, and mt wife says 6 PCs in the house is enough already. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #158,143 by ben_tilly 6/2/04 2:53:56 PM Reply	That problem is easily enough solved... Arrange for some of the existing computers to have strategically timed "accidents". Then say that you obviously need a new computer or 3. :-D Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #158,254 by lincoln 6/3/04 11:52:48 AM Reply	But the solution will force me to abandon many programs that I've acquired over the years that ran on pre-Win 98 operating systems: I've tested some on my work laptop running XP Pro and they won't work properly or at all. I'm not going to give up years of data that's locked inside freeware/shareware program files that never followed Microsoft's "upgrade path" or were purchased from companies that are no longer in existence. And I still want to salvage the data files from the drive if that's possible. lincoln "Windows XP has so many holes in its security that any reasonable user will conclude it was designed by the same German officer who created the prison compound in "Hogan's Heroes." - Andy Ihnatko, Chicago Sun-Times [link\|mailto:bconnors@ev1.net\|contact me]
Post #158,264 by folkert 6/3/04 12:28:34 PM Reply	But many of those program run just fine under DOSEMU or other emulators in Linux distributions. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I've decided to become a perfectionist. That way I'll have more reasons to hate people. Your recycled electrons annoy me. Please use new electrons.
Post #158,280 by ben_tilly 6/3/04 2:40:20 PM Reply	What will you do if THOSE machines crash? You should work out your upgrade path sooner rather than later. Cheers, Ben To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act - [link\|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20\|Nebraska Supreme Court]
Post #158,144 by admin 6/2/04 3:09:12 PM Reply	Easy to upgrade. Just replace the mobo and CPU, possibly the RAM. Number of computers stays the same. :-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #158,153 by folkert 6/2/04 3:34:12 PM Reply	Me? I just buy components all the time. Sometimes, it turns out, I magically have enough for another machine. Of course, now I have a problem that I don't wanna cycle my home servers through... as a PII-300 with 512MB would be a horrible overkill of a Firewall machine. And a 900MHz 1.5GB would seems to be WAY overkill for a nfs/music streamer/debian repo/ISO Sanctuary. I already have an XP2500+ I have not yet cycled through yet. I tested it 2 weeks ago, was the processor in my main machine when the MB blew. It passed with flying colors and no smoke being released. /me currently has a Duron 850MHz, Thunderbird 900MHz and an XP2500+ laying around doing nothing. Not enough to build a machine... but getting there. I need a good cheap motherboard right now for the 900MHz. -- [link\|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net\|greg], [link\|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry\|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ *i_wethey* I've decided to become a perfectionist. That way I'll have more reasons to hate people. Your recycled electrons annoy me. Please use new electrons.
Post #158,205 by Andrew Grygus 6/2/04 9:26:43 PM Reply	Not a problem here . . . . since we run OS/2 and Linux we get along just fine on stuff I strip out for clients' Windows upgrades. These days it doesn't even take a new version of Windows. Their computers get bogged down with a few worms and some scumware and they want an "upgrade" and aren't going to be happy until they get one. I've learned from long experience not to fight this - just give them what they want or someone else will. [link\|http://www.aaxnet.com\|AAx]
Post #158,171 by deSitter 6/2/04 5:44:18 PM Reply	Well, 2k then 2k runs fine on a PII 300 laptop. Should run well on that machine. -drl
Post #158,149 by lister 6/2/04 3:31:49 PM Reply	RAID 0? RAID 1 RAID 0 just stripes across multiple disks giving you better performance but no protection. In fact you'd be better off running the disks separately as one disk failure in a RAID 0 array means your file system is toast. Even RAID5 isn't fool proof. I had an eight disk RAID5 volume fail several days ago when two disks went kaput witin 45 minutes of each other. Even if a hotspare disk was there to jump in I have my doubts the RAID5 volume would have finished initializing the drive before the second one died. It may even push the second disk to failure sooner with the increased disk activity as the volume is in degraded mode. lister
Post #158,170 by inthane-chan 6/2/04 5:37:57 PM Reply	Nightly offsite backups. It's the only way to be (kinda sorta) sure. Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #158,186 by altmann 6/2/04 7:34:46 PM Reply	Re: "offsite" [link\|http://www.stardestroyer.net/Empire/Science/Nuke.html\|A handy calculator] for those "offsite" backups, just in case other parties are trying to be sure. ;) -- Chris Altmann
Post #158,187 by Another Scott 6/2/04 7:44:08 PM Reply	Where do you find such stuff? And another thing... Ha! :-/ It reminds me of another thing that needs to be considered when storing valuables [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2004/05/27/arts/27FIRE.html\|off-site]. :-( Cheers, Scott.
Post #158,188 by altmann 6/2/04 7:49:10 PM Reply	Product of a warped imagination, and Google to flesh it out. -- Chris Altmann
Post #158,189 by Ashton 6/2/04 8:02:37 PM Reply	Ah.. an understandable confusion You meant, off.. this site --> _\ufffd

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