Need quick recommendation on 2 eBay laptops

Post #156,616 by jbrabeck 5/24/04 11:30:26 AM Reply	Need quick recommendation on 2 eBay laptops [link\|http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3481106075&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1\|HP PAVILION ZE4365 ] and [link\|http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3481088626&sspagename=STRK%3AMEBI%3AIT&rd=1\|COMPAQ 2190US] From hardware forum - need a laptop for my daughter headed for college next year. Both are within budget. Must have WiFi capability. Which is better? Why? One ends in 30 min.
Post #156,617 by inthane-chan 5/24/04 11:35:20 AM Reply	Without knowing much about reliability... ...I'd say the HP. I don't know about how HP and Compaq stack up hardware wise, but an Athlon 2200+ will kick a Celeron 2400's ass from here to Timbuktu, both from the greater cache size and from the fact that the Athlon is a much better processor overall. That, and 512mb RAM > 256mb RAM any day. Battery life may be worse though. Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #156,620 by jbrabeck 5/24/04 12:07:54 PM Reply	Thank you. Have won the bid for the HP. Will let you know what my daughter's reaction is. (She had picked out a brand new Toshiba P4 with everything.)
Post #156,625 by inthane-chan 5/24/04 12:23:21 PM Reply	P4 = t3h suxx0rz Damn, I'm turning into a 1337speaker. :P Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #156,627 by pwhysall 5/24/04 12:34:34 PM Reply	Cr4p. Early P4s were cack. Mine's a shitkicker, especially as it's in an 800MHz FSB box with PC3200 memory. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #156,800 by inthane-chan 5/25/04 1:02:27 AM Reply	d00d, j00 pwn3d. I got one processor for you, baby: Athlon 64. Put THAT in your case and smoke it. :D Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain. You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today. And then one day you find ten years have got behind you. No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
Post #156,812 by pwhysall 5/25/04 3:12:26 AM Reply	amd64 branch of debian is seriously stalled :< Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #156,820 by a6l6e6x 5/25/04 7:41:10 AM Reply	And then there's Fedoara. [link\|http://download.fedora.redhat.com/pub/fedora/linux/core/2/x86_64/iso/\|FC2-x86_64]. But, you knew that. Now, if only I had the spare cash. :) Alex "History will be kind to me, for I intend to write it."* -- Winston Churchill
Post #156,822 by pwhysall 5/25/04 8:24:22 AM Reply	I am torn on the Fedora issue. On the one hand, it's super-up-to-date. On the other, it's got all the rancidness of Red Hat coupled with the slowness of Yum and a very incomplete apt toolset. It does have a lovely installer and it does get you up and running with a minimum of fuss, but I found it frustrating really quickly; the centralised QA that means that Debian releases are really slow isn't there, meaning packages can and do act more-or-less just as they please; there's no sane way of dealing with orphaned packages (packages which have nothing depending on them - libraries, usually); Yum (the Yellow Dog Updater, Modified) is a nice tool but it's REALLY slow. I've tried, in the past year, Red Hat 9, Fedora Core 1 & 2, SuSE 9.0, Mandrake 9.0, and the one I always go back to because it's just better is Debian. Better QA, better architecture, better documentation, better packages, better policy, better software selection. BETTER Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]
Post #156,793 by gdaustin 5/25/04 12:20:01 AM Reply	HP should be cool... I have the ze4560. It's solid, heavy, and about 2 1/2 hours of battery life. Lithium Ion battery. Mine would have been perfect had my nephew not dropped it with the CD Rom door open. But HP did fix it under warranty, but only after 3 attempts. I think the 3rd time's the charm, 'cause it works great now! So, I'm back to being happy with HP (except that Carly Fiorina has to go). I like the 15 inch screen better than the Dell D600 the company gave me. Not because it's bigger (15 vs. 14), but because the HP is brighter. The Dell feels cheap. But, to the Dell's credit, the battery life on the Dell is about 4 hours, unless I use the CD Rom heavily. I have 2 HPs and 3 Compaqs at home. The HPs win by a mile! The Compaqs are cheap. You made the right decision.
Post #156,816 by jbrabeck 5/25/04 6:49:13 AM Reply	Thanks for the comments. Gave it to my daughter yesterday to check out, make sure everything is working correctly. That's the one nice thing about buying from a local company, even if it was through ebay, if it doesn't work, I can show up on their doorstep. My daughter is one happy kid right now.

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