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New Interesting article by Clark
[link|http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/features/2004/0405.clark.html|Washington Monthly]
During 2002 and early 2003, Bush administration officials put forth a shifting series of arguments for why we needed to invade Iraq. Nearly every one of these has been belied by subsequent events. We have yet to find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq; assuming that they exist at all, they obviously never presented an imminent threat. Saddam's alleged connections to al Qaeda turned out to be tenuous at best and clearly had nothing to do with September 11. The terrorists now in Iraq have largely arrived because we are there, and Saddam's security forces aren't. And peace between Israel and the Palestinians, which prominent hawks argued could be achieved "only through Baghdad," seems further away than ever.

Advocates of the invasion are now down to their last argument: that transforming Iraq from brutal tyranny to stable democracy will spark a wave of democratic reform throughout the Middle East, thereby alleviating the conditions that give rise to terrorism. This argument is still standing because not enough time has elapsed to test it definitively--though events in the year since Baghdad's fall do not inspire confidence. For every report of a growing conversation in the Arab world about the importance of democracy, there's another report of moderate Arabs feeling their position undercut by the backlash against our invasion. For every example of progress (Libya giving up its WMD program), there's an instance of backsliding (the Iranian mullahs purging reformist parliamentarians).

Long article, discussing why the current plans of the White House have failed and what can be done about it.

President Bush's approach to Iraq and to the Middle East in general has been greatly influenced by a group of foreign-policy thinkers whose defining experience was as hawkish advisors to President Reagan and the first President Bush, and who in the last few years have made an explicit comparison between Middle Eastern regimes and the Soviet Union. These neoconservatives looked at the nest of problems caused by Middle East tyranny and argued that a morally unequivocal stance and tough military action could topple those regimes and transform the region as surely as they believed that Reagan's aggressive rhetoric and military posture brought down the Soviet Union. In a March 2002 interview on CNN, Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz, one of the main architects of the Iraq war, argued that the moral judgment that President Bush made "very clear, crystal clear in his State of the Union message" in which he laid out the Axis of Evil is "exactly the same kind of clarity, I think, that Ronald Reagan introduced in understanding the Soviet Union." In a speech last year, Defense Department advisor Richard Perle made the comparison even more explicit: "I have no doubt that [Bush] has the vision that Ronald Reagan had, and can envision, can contemplate change on a very large scale in Iraq and elsewhere across the region."

Clark points out in great detail just what is wrong with this thinking. He raises two issues, first the collapse of the Soviet Union was neither as fast nor as neat as neocons make it out to be and second, that the Russian sphere is nothing like the Middle East.

He also gives a bunch of suggestions for how we should be moving to build a democracy in Iraq. Personally, I think it is probably to late already but the plan he lays out is sensible and might have worked if we had started with it.

Jay





New Seems to me, that there is only one answer:
Long article, discussing why the current plans of the White House have failed and what can be done about it.


Seems to me the answer to the implied question can be summed up in 3 words:

Get.
Another.
President.
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating the facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT

New Two more words...
THEN WHAT?
Just a few thoughts,

Danno
New click yer heels together and end up in Kansas
Time for Lord Stanley to get a Tan
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New 3. Profit! :D
New Then here's what...
John Brady Kiesling, the career diplomat who's February 03 [link|http://www.commondreams.org/views03/0227-13.htm|resignation letter] is a great read, contributed an interesting [link|http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20040524&s=forum|idea] to The Nation's "How to get out of Iraq" forum: pick our best-bet Iraqi leader to lose to and let him drive us out...

In the end a fractured Iraq can be held together only by a man wrapped, like George Washington or Ho Chi Minh, in the legitimacy that derives from successful armed struggle. We should note the ease with which a scruffy young cleric united Sunnis and Shiites against the US presence. A victorious Secretary Rumsfeld could not impose Ahmad Chalabi. However, a retreating US military can designate Iraq's liberator. We must select the competent Iraqi patriot to whom we yield ground while bleeding his competitors. There will be casualties and disorder, no matter how brilliantly we orchestrate our withdrawal. But the overwhelming majority of Iraqis will rally around any man who claims to drive us out, and elections would validate his relatively bloodless victory.


There's more. He makes sense to me. Could we start from there? Of course, it's still dicey as hell, and also, as we (should) know, the devil is in the details.

Giovanni
I'm not a complete idiot -- some parts are missing
     Interesting article by Clark - (JayMehaffey) - (5)
         Seems to me, that there is only one answer: - (jb4) - (3)
             Two more words... - (danreck) - (2)
                 click yer heels together and end up in Kansas -NT - (boxley)
                 3. Profit! :D -NT - (inthane-chan)
         Then here's what... - (GBert)

Worst case, tell your boss it's a new kind of ultra-XML -- not quite invisible, but only very sophisticated and intelligent people can see it...
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