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New Me too
But I think it fits me better.
You are too merciful.
New And here I had you labelled as a black knight
[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/bknight.html|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/bknight.html]

Your distinct personality, The Black Knight, might be found in most of the thriving kingdoms of the time. Your overriding goal is to win. You approach each task or situation as a contest to be won strategically and efficiently. Because you can control your feelings, it is not unusual for you to charm, as well as successfully delegate tasks and responsibilities to the more emotional types. You are often concerned with what's in it for you. You seldom involve yourself in activities where you can not foresee a reward for your investment or effort. On the positive side, you can be analytically empathic and logically persuasive. On the negative side, you may be unemotionally manipulative as well as impulsive. Interestingly, your preference is just as applicable in today's corporate kingdoms.

I don't think that it fits me, but dang if it doesn't fit my impression of you...

Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New So sorry
I read the PM and it felt right.

But reading the BN also is pretty close.

These are not truly distinct personalities.

They need to show a range in the test. I bet there are areas where it might be 55% PM, 45% BN, so they show PM.

I see the differences though. BN can delegate tasks and responsibilities to the more emotional types. I would just discard them and replace them with people more logical. Maybe the BN doesn't mind wasting time dealing with their screwups. Maybe when he fixes the problems he binds them tigher to him, so he then uses them as cannon fodder when the really massive screwups come back to bite him. I KNOW a Black Night. I am not one, though.

I also am NEVER impulsive at work. Too much riding on every decision. So the canned desciption fails on both for me. There is difference making an informed decision, quickly, then being impulsive.

Couple of more things. The win at any cost is too short term. Too dangerous. Need more stability than that, w/ kids and house. So my more cautionary answers in company types (dot.com came last) probably knocked me out of the BN range.

As a PM, you are not responsible for the initial goal. But given a goal, you can map out all the high level tasks to get there. Which means strategic thinking. BN is more tactical. I can DO BN, and typically do BOTH, but my preferences indicate PM.
Expand Edited by broomberg April 29, 2004, 09:11:11 PM EDT
New I still feel that it doesn't fit me
I ranked most of them in reverse (ie 4-3-2-1). But I valued stability. That one question didn't do it.

I would be curious to browse all of the personality types to see if any fit me better in my opinion.
[link|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/pg1.htm|http://www.kingdomal...gbrochure/pg1.htm] indicates that there are 12 of them, but I don't know their names and therefore the URLs for the descriptions.

Ah well, just a stupid personality test with a cute theme. Not a big deal.

Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New I found some. Ben got the last. All 12.
\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n\r\n
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T6.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/minstrel.html|Minstrel]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T3.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/bknight.html|Black Knight]\r\n
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T12.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/wknight.html|White Knight]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T9.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/prime.html|Prime Minister]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T5.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/doctor.html|Doctor]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T4.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/discover.html|Discoveror]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T11.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/shepherd.html|Shepherd]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T1.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/benruler.html|Benevolent Ruler]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T8.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/merchant.html|Merchant]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T10.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/scientist.html|Scientist]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T2.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/bishop.html|Bishop]
[image|http://www.kingdomality.com/kingbrochure/T7.gif|0||60|60]
\r\n[link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/engineer.html|Engineer]

If you finger it out. Post it.
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[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

Give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute.
Set him on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
Expand Edited by folkert April 30, 2004, 08:35:05 AM EDT
New Guessing how this works....
Order 1-2-3-4 gives Doctor.
Order 1-3-2-4 gives Scientist.
Order 1-3-4-2 gives [link|http://www.cmi-lmi.com/engineer.html|Engineer-Builder] - the one that you don't have.

I'll stop there.

I'm guessing that where you place 1 and 2 determines which category you get. (There are 12 categories, and 12 choices of where to place 1 and 2. Coincidence?) But I'm not interested enough to enumerate the rest right now.

Cheers,
Ben
To deny the indirect purchaser, who in this case is the ultimate purchaser, the right to seek relief from unlawful conduct, would essentially remove the word consumer from the Consumer Protection Act
- [link|http://www.techworld.com/opsys/news/index.cfm?NewsID=1246&Page=1&pagePos=20|Nebraska Supreme Court]
New I just met another one
Sweet young thing who has the cubbie outside my office.
She's gorgious.
1/2 Filipino, 1/2 caucasion.
Asian features on a killer body.
With the occasional discrete tatoo.

She's a BN as well. Or at least a BN wannabe.
BNs can be bad for PMs if they work for the other
side. I'll have to watch out for her.
New stick yer tongue back into yer pants
sweet young things and Barry dont mix, just drool at the appropriate moments and be the prefect gentleman.
thanx,
bill
attempting to explain profiling doesn't require one to take a position for or against it any more than attempting to explain gravity requires one to be for or against gravity. Walter Williams
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Hey, you never responded to my last question.
Please do.
New I most certainly did, gets pinched if you call him bob
as he is Robert. Call me if you need to. 8134680635
thanx,
bill
attempting to explain profiling doesn't require one to take a position for or against it any more than attempting to explain gravity requires one to be for or against gravity. Walter Williams
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New Note to self.
Keep my daughter (when I have her) FAR FAR away from Uncle Barry. :)
Tired of lying in the sunshine staying home to watch the rain.
You are young and life is long and there is time to kill today.
And then one day you find ten years have got behind you.
No one told you when to run, you missed the starting gun.
New Duly noted!
--
[link|mailto:greg@gregfolkert.net|greg],
[link|http://www.iwethey.org/ed_curry|REMEMBER ED CURRY!] @ iwethey

Give a man a match, he'll be warm for a minute.
Set him on fire, he'll be warm for the rest of his life!
     Kingdom personality test - (orion) - (34)
         Black knight is what they thought -NT - (ben_tilly) - (3)
             None shall pass! - (orion)
             interesting - (cforde)
             Another Black Knight here. -NT - (Another Scott)
         Minstrel... - (imric) - (1)
             It is possible - (orion)
         All ye knights and minstrels gather 'round . . - (Andrew Grygus)
         I shall be the Prime Minister - (folkert) - (13)
             Can there be two Prime Ministers? :-) -NT - (ChrisR)
             Me too - (broomberg) - (11)
                 And here I had you labelled as a black knight - (ben_tilly) - (10)
                     So sorry - (broomberg) - (3)
                         I still feel that it doesn't fit me - (ben_tilly) - (2)
                             I found some. Ben got the last. All 12. - (folkert) - (1)
                                 Guessing how this works.... - (ben_tilly)
                     I just met another one - (broomberg) - (5)
                         stick yer tongue back into yer pants - (boxley) - (2)
                             Hey, you never responded to my last question. - (broomberg) - (1)
                                 I most certainly did, gets pinched if you call him bob - (boxley)
                         Note to self. - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                             Duly noted! -NT - (folkert)
         Discoverer - (gdaustin) - (1)
             You and I both...the Cptn Kirk types. -NT - (bepatient)
         Benevolent Ruler - (deSitter)
         I must join Orion as a Shepard - (jbrabeck)
         Bishop - (drewk)
         Doctor - (jbrabeck)
         White knight - (bbronson) - (2)
             I've got a great idea. Why doesn't Sir Brian go? - (FuManChu) - (1)
                 No; it's too perilous -NT - (bbronson)
         Discoverer as well -NT - (GBert)
         Dreamer - Minstrel - (Silverlock) - (2)
             ICLRPD - (drewk)
             They are looking for clients - (broomberg)

Come sweet slumber, enshroud me in thy purple cloak.
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