Nope.

Post #151,933 by Silverlock 4/20/04 1:14:14 PM Reply	Nope. Not unless you wanted to give him a honoraria for speaking about his work. ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #151,934 by Yendor 4/20/04 1:23:32 PM Reply	So I could then... ...Have this guy work for me for 6 months for free. Have him give a verbal presentation to the other programmers in the group, and pay him $50,000 for that presentation as an honoraria? -YendorMike [link\|http://www.hope-ride.org/\|http://www.hope-ride.org/]
Post #151,937 by drewk 4/20/04 1:35:56 PM Reply	You're getting it Maybe even have regular presentations. No sir, they're not status meetings, they're verbal presentations. And if some lowly customs worker thinks that this was not the intent of the law and challenges our interpretation ... why we'll just mock that poor uneducated sod for not recognizing that loopholes exist to be exploited. Anyone smart enough to see that the law is somewhat vague deserves our respect and admiration for figuring out how to exploit those weaknesses. And our heartfelt apoligies for forcing him to explain himself. === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #151,944 by Silverlock 4/20/04 2:31:48 PM Reply	You could try I don't think the IRS would let you though. You seem to be straining mightily to twist this into something it's not. Pray continue, I can always use the amusement. ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #151,948 by drewk 4/20/04 2:50:06 PM Reply	I don't think so You seem to be straining mightily to twist this into something it's not. An author was stopped for coming into the country on a tourist visa when he was actually coming for business purposes. Turned out he was exploiting a loophole in the law, in that the size of an "honoraria" was not defined. By the same logic, anyone who makes a living as a writer can come here to work as long as his salary is classified as "honoraria". And since software is protected by copyright, it seems programmers can be called authors. No, I don't in any way advocate trying this. Just pointing out the confluence of two loopholes.[1] [1] Don't like the term "loopholes"? How about "interpretaions of the law"? === Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
Post #151,956 by Silverlock 4/20/04 3:36:42 PM Reply	I don't agree. I followed the arguments about this when Rand first brought it up. I thought it was silly then. I think it's silly now. Trying to compare the programmer with the author is stretching it mightily. If the author had come here to write while under contract and was paid to do that writing, you might be able to compare them. But even that is silly. ----------------------------------------- It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why? Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand. Mike Royko
Post #151,977 by altmann 4/20/04 4:51:04 PM Reply	Missing something "Visitors are allowed to receive honoraria for appearances before academic groups in the United States..." And from Another Scott's post: "Participating in conventions, conferences or convocation of fraternal or social organizations; i.e.: Not businesses. -- Chris Altmann
Post #151,945 by pwhysall 4/20/04 2:33:33 PM Reply	Nononono. He'll follow you around for six months looking at everything you do, then you get fired. Peter [link\|http://www.debian.org\|Shill For Hire] [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal] [link\|http://guildenstern.dyndns.org\|Blog]

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