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I wasn't having lunch with Barney in HR here.

These were large company owners and large corporate CEO folks here.

Those evil Fortune 500 folks were genuinely worried about education. They were all also very involved in local events.

But they're not supposed to care, those evil bastards.

Sorry bud, but even Exxon/Mobil is an organization of >human beings<. You seem to like to paint all of these folks, obviously without ever spending any time with them (or anyone like them) with a very wide brush.

Its just as offensive to me as simple prejudice based on color.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New Um, I have spent some time with them.
Regularly in Detroit as a matter of fact. And not Fortune 500, Fortune 100 (including some in the Fortune 10). It's not even about money or wealth accumulation at that level - it's power. Why else would billionaire's do anything but sip cool drinks with little hats in them in the Carribean?

The *care* for the common man? ROFLMAO! Did the CEO of AT & T *care* about the 20,000+ operators he laid off and consequently enjoyed a 6 million dollar gain personally?

Look all you want through those Disney rose colored glasses. These guys see their employees as resources to be consumed, laws to protect workers rights as anti-American to the point that they purchase Governors, Congressmen and Senators to get them stricken, laws to protect clean drinking water as vile intrusions into their right to be more productive, etc. ad nauseum.

Education what they want? Maybe, but what they want is more rightly called indoctrination. Big companies are big because they're supposed to be, all this worry about stuff like Corvairs, Thalidamide, melting ice caps and the hole in the ozone layer are just Chicken Little stuff from loonies on the Left, etc. Buy ours, buy it now, it will make you whole. Identify yourself not with your community, state or country but with the corporation you serve (after all, your country is just a conglomerate of very large multi-nationals anyway). You owe us because we employ you. Wealthy people who own corporations are what make this country great - don't tax them, tax yourselves. It's okay and sometimes necessary to deceive your direct reports. Greed is never enough. I could go on with literally thousands of examples, but I'm sure we've all heard some variant of them repeatedly (at least the folks who were raised here to be good consumers).



New No point
Here's hoping that you never have to make one of those decisions, lest you become what you so obviously hate.

If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition

[link|mailto:bepatient@aol.com|BePatient]
New No worries.
I have a conscience and am therefore excluded from entry into management of any kind, let alone management of the vaunted Fortune 500.
Expand Edited by mmoffitt April 19, 2004, 12:31:19 PM EDT
     Companies complaining about potential employees - (JayMehaffey) - (20)
         Right. - (bepatient) - (16)
             No child left behind? -NT - (tuberculosis) - (1)
                 This was in more "compassionate" times. - (bepatient)
             Myself, I draw a major distinction - (jake123)
             You missed your calling. - (mmoffitt) - (12)
                 What? - (bepatient) - (11)
                     First officers were "political officers" ;0) - (mmoffitt) - (10)
                         Ah, I see. - (bepatient) - (9)
                             Aw, c'mon. - (mmoffitt) - (8)
                                 so every american worker is a soviet hero? - (boxley) - (3)
                                     Beg pardon. - (inthane-chan) - (2)
                                         You are in the pharm industry, different players. - (boxley) - (1)
                                             Done a bit of that... - (inthane-chan)
                                 What? - (bepatient) - (3)
                                     Um, I have spent some time with them. - (mmoffitt) - (2)
                                         No point - (bepatient) - (1)
                                             No worries. - (mmoffitt)
         Don't have enough info - (broomberg) - (1)
             I say both. - (inthane-chan)
         Sounds like ITAA is greasing USAToday -NT - (tablizer)

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