Post #151,592
4/18/04 12:32:53 PM
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You missed your calling.
You'd have made an excellent first officer in the Soviet Navy.
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Post #151,611
4/18/04 3:07:38 PM
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What?
Universal translator didn't connect your post to the previous. Sorry.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,613
4/18/04 3:11:43 PM
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First officers were "political officers" ;0)
Notoriously bad seamen, but tremendous propagandists. I said that because we can always count on you to defend the greatness of Murican Capitalists. :-)
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Post #151,616
4/18/04 3:18:19 PM
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Ah, I see.
You can't argue the validity of my post, so you attack me as a poster.
Good show old boy.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,620
4/18/04 3:30:18 PM
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Aw, c'mon.
Defending the ludicrous claims of bizness in this thread was laughable.
No offense intended.
You and I have exchanged blows long enough that you know that I do not see "two bicycle shop guys in business for themselves" in the same light as I see Exxon/Mobil.
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Post #151,634
4/18/04 5:29:15 PM
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so every american worker is a soviet hero?
willing to work as hard as possible for the bosses and singing praise for the chance? Beep is right. It is hard to find people at any level to even show up on a regular basis much less doing anything productive after they get there regardless of wage paid.
thanx,
bill
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
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Post #151,642
4/18/04 6:12:03 PM
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Beg pardon.
I don't know where you've been working, but the people at my company (with a few exceptions, who are no longer with us) seem to all be a hardworking bunch.
Must have something to do with the fact that (for the most part) the company treats us fairly, and doesn't jack us on stupid shit.
Treat your employees with respect, and they'll respect you. Don't, and, well...
Nobody wins in a butter eating contest
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Post #151,643
4/18/04 6:17:30 PM
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You are in the pharm industry, different players.
in your yute did you ever work low end manufacturing, assembly janitorial or food service, construction labor. I have hired folks to do sweepout, they make same as me cash on the barrel and after a couple of hours of leaning on a broom the exclaim "gotta corkle off now, wheres my time" the fuckers demanded top dollar for shit I had to redo! About 5 out of 40 that particular summer were worth a shit.
thanx,
bill
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
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Post #151,645
4/18/04 6:44:20 PM
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Done a bit of that...
...and you're right, the quality drops a bit there. However, I don't see it as 90% - it's more like about 50%. Then again, I did work at the cult-controlled Dairy Queen...
Nobody wins in a butter eating contest
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Post #151,703
4/18/04 10:38:44 PM
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What?
I wasn't having lunch with Barney in HR here.
These were large company owners and large corporate CEO folks here.
Those evil Fortune 500 folks were genuinely worried about education. They were all also very involved in local events.
But they're not supposed to care, those evil bastards.
Sorry bud, but even Exxon/Mobil is an organization of >human beings<. You seem to like to paint all of these folks, obviously without ever spending any time with them (or anyone like them) with a very wide brush.
Its just as offensive to me as simple prejudice based on color.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,741
4/19/04 9:55:36 AM
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Um, I have spent some time with them.
Regularly in Detroit as a matter of fact. And not Fortune 500, Fortune 100 (including some in the Fortune 10). It's not even about money or wealth accumulation at that level - it's power. Why else would billionaire's do anything but sip cool drinks with little hats in them in the Carribean?
The *care* for the common man? ROFLMAO! Did the CEO of AT & T *care* about the 20,000+ operators he laid off and consequently enjoyed a 6 million dollar gain personally?
Look all you want through those Disney rose colored glasses. These guys see their employees as resources to be consumed, laws to protect workers rights as anti-American to the point that they purchase Governors, Congressmen and Senators to get them stricken, laws to protect clean drinking water as vile intrusions into their right to be more productive, etc. ad nauseum.
Education what they want? Maybe, but what they want is more rightly called indoctrination. Big companies are big because they're supposed to be, all this worry about stuff like Corvairs, Thalidamide, melting ice caps and the hole in the ozone layer are just Chicken Little stuff from loonies on the Left, etc. Buy ours, buy it now, it will make you whole. Identify yourself not with your community, state or country but with the corporation you serve (after all, your country is just a conglomerate of very large multi-nationals anyway). You owe us because we employ you. Wealthy people who own corporations are what make this country great - don't tax them, tax yourselves. It's okay and sometimes necessary to deceive your direct reports. Greed is never enough. I could go on with literally thousands of examples, but I'm sure we've all heard some variant of them repeatedly (at least the folks who were raised here to be good consumers).
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Post #151,753
4/19/04 10:47:29 AM
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No point
Here's hoping that you never have to make one of those decisions, lest you become what you so obviously hate.
If you push something hard enough, it will fall over. Fudd's First Law of Opposition
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Post #151,771
4/19/04 12:29:11 PM
4/19/04 12:31:19 PM
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No worries.
I have a conscience and am therefore excluded from entry into management of any kind, let alone management of the vaunted Fortune 500.
Edited by mmoffitt
April 19, 2004, 12:31:19 PM EDT
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