Post #148,846
3/26/04 5:30:10 PM
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How silly can Mexico get?
A group of people who know each other through their work and are involved in a well-known form of recreation take a vacation to a popular spot to engage in that recreation, get in trouble, and now it is an international incident.
Why, you ask? Because their workplace happened to be the British military, and the place where it happened is convinced that they were engaged in military exercises!
Don't believe me?
[link|http://www.reuters.com/newsArticle.jhtml?type=scienceNews&storyID=4674812|http://www.reuters.c...s&storyID=4674812]
*sigh*
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #148,847
3/26/04 5:41:27 PM
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You really think it's about that?
Diplomacy is about never saying what you really mean. The article even says as much, acknowledging that Vicente Fox is pissed at 10 Downing Street right now.
He's just making hay.
"I'll stop calling the current administration 'Orwellian' when they stop using "1984" as a playbook."
J. Bradford DeLong
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Post #148,856
3/26/04 6:58:01 PM
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Pissed indeed -
What would be Your attitude, after finding (suspecting) that guys from the same outfit had been helping the US spy on your diplomats {unproven assetion, natch - but so so rabid Neoconman-like; proof optional}.
\ufffdViva Zapata, Foxito!
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Post #148,873
3/26/04 9:18:14 PM
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Agreed
But still their willingness to be seen as stupid just to cause a fuss still amazed me.
Call me naive...
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #148,934
3/27/04 7:22:48 AM
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They rejected Mexican aid for rescue
Insult doubled and returned.
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It is much harder to be a liberal than a conservative. Why?
Because it is easier to give someone the finger than it is to give them a helping hand.
Mike Royko
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Post #148,874
3/26/04 9:22:07 PM
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not silly at all
Just south of Mexico is a country named Belize where SAS and other troops play patacake with guatamala in the range of mountains the crosses guatamala, Mexio and Belize. This area is also a prime drug transhipment point. Now these guys were just noth of chiapas which is having a problem at the moment with the central government. Mexico is right to be suspicious. Although they are probably just tourists.
thanx,
bill
In Bush\ufffds America, fighting terrorism abroad is used as a pretext for vanquishing civil liberties at home. David Podvin
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Post #148,886
3/26/04 9:54:36 PM
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OT: Moz won't open link because of the mimetype
Type is 'dynamo-internal/html' and Moz says it doesn't know what to do. Anyone know how to fix this?
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Implicitly condoning stupidity since 2001.
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Post #148,897
3/26/04 10:28:11 PM
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It works for me? (Galeon - Mozilla-based on Linux)
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
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Post #148,917
3/27/04 12:56:50 AM
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works fine here on Firefox .8 and Moz 1.5 on XP
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Steve
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Post #148,950
3/27/04 1:33:33 PM
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Latest Update
[link|http://news.scotsman.com/latest.cfm?id=2704132|Scotsman,com] The Britons rescued from a waterlogged cavern in Mexico could be trapped in the country until after the weekend as police investigate claims they were looking for radioactive materials.
The six men, along with seven others which made up the caving team, have been detained by Mexican authorities over possible visa breaches since they were helped from the caves near Cuetzalan yesterday. The radioactive materials charge appears to be bogus also, it appears they didn't have the right gear for such nor do the caves they where exploring appear to contain any. No telling when the caving team will get to go home though because it does appear that they can be held on at least one minor VISA charge, they didn't have the right permits for mapping the cave. Really have to wonder what sort of thinking is going on behind the scenes here. Is the Mexican government so angry at England that they are just harrasing these guys? Or is there actually some question as to what they where doing? Or are the Mexican's just being paranoid about finding a military team in the country they didn't know about? Jay
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Post #149,036
3/27/04 11:35:58 PM
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Finding a military team in your country
that you don't know about is going to be some matter for concern for any country, I'd think.
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Post #149,091
3/28/04 11:07:53 AM
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Agreed
If I was in change I'd want to know why.
The tourist line of reasoning is just too cute. I don't believe them.
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Post #149,103
3/28/04 12:46:00 PM
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U claims dropped, but MoD seems to have muddied the waters
Yesterday, ITV reported the men were on a training exercise. If that is indeed correct, then they're not out of it yet. I'm pretty sure that isn't covered by your average tourist visa. That bit apparently came from the British MoD:
[link|http://www.itv.com/news/659384.html|http://www.itv.com/news/659384.html]
But today, the British embassy in Mexico claims they were mapping the caves
[link|http://www.itv.com/news/765293.html|http://www.itv.com/news/765293.html]
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