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New man?!?
Just because you're "familiar with all levels of UNIX administration", doesn't mean you actually use one....




;-)



And besides, until they allow us to start up 'man' with 'less' instead of 'more', man will forever remain the vi of help!



(But thanks for the info, Scott...Filed appropriately in the "When I finally get Linux lit at home" file!)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
Expand Edited by jb4 March 23, 2004, 06:50:13 PM EST
New Then I suspect you don't qualify anyway... ;-)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Guilty as charged....
But I'm chomping at the bit for a useful 2.6 kernel distro...so I can start prosyletising the masses to use Linux in the embedded space (where I work!).
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
New Debian.
aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686 (or kernel-image-2.6-k7 if you have an Athlon)
Regards,

-scott anderson

"Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
New Just found out that SuSE 9.1's got it
Available in May (which is about as long as it'll take to get my wife to agree to let me spend the $90 (SMRP) on it...;-) )

And I don't mind spending money on Novell (even though the just about finished the job Micros~1 started on my beloved WordPerfect).
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
New And we see that their filter worked
Any Unix admin who won't look in a man page doesn't deserve the job. Anyone who thinks that they are familiar with all levels of Unix administration who can't set up Cygwin if they don't have Linux, probably isn't as familiar as initially claimed.

And on my system, at least, man actually does use less. Not being a sysadmin, I don't know what the trick is. (Note, I'm not qualified for their job either.) But it didn't take much testing to verify that I have extensions in man that are from less...

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New two implementations of man, more or less
one gnu is less one Bell labs is more
thanx,
bill
"You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete
questions, help? [link|mailto:pappas@catholic.org|email pappas at catholic.org]
New That makes sense
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New $ echo $PAGER
less -R
--

Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them.

--Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
New That can't be it
$PAGER isn't set locally.

Cheers,
Ben
"good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not"
- [link|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html|Stefano Mazzocchi]
New Then you have sensible default
I tried to set it to "more", and more was used.

That's how things are supposed to work. PAGER, EDITOR and there probably are more.
--

Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them.

--Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
New How ironic your .sig is in this thread.....**giggle**
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
New As I already admitted to Scott...
...I don't even pretend to be qualified.


(Although, it would be an interesting exercise to pretend to be qualified, and find out how far I get...)
jb4
shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf. BULLSHIT
     One way to filter for technical people :-) - (ben_tilly) - (93)
         "Fearlessness"? - (Another Scott) - (17)
             Yeah, that and a digital certificate. - (jb4) - (14)
                 Easy peasy. - (admin) - (13)
                     man?!? - (jb4) - (12)
                         Then I suspect you don't qualify anyway... ;-) -NT - (admin) - (3)
                             Guilty as charged.... - (jb4) - (2)
                                 Debian. - (admin) - (1)
                                     Just found out that SuSE 9.1's got it - (jb4)
                         And we see that their filter worked - (ben_tilly) - (7)
                             two implementations of man, more or less - (boxley) - (1)
                                 That makes sense -NT - (ben_tilly)
                             $ echo $PAGER - (Arkadiy) - (3)
                                 That can't be it - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                     Then you have sensible default - (Arkadiy)
                                 How ironic your .sig is in this thread.....**giggle** -NT - (jb4)
                             As I already admitted to Scott... - (jb4)
             Deploy wireless network? - (broomberg) - (1)
                 ROTFL -NT - (ben_tilly)
         Is this for real? - (deSitter) - (1)
             Unless the position is already filled, it should be real - (ben_tilly)
         would look into it but - (boxley)
         Could also be. . . - (morganek) - (2)
             Go through process.... - (pwhysall) - (1)
                 Sent my pubkey - no response -NT - (deSitter)
         Hhhmmmmmmm - (orion) - (35)
             You don't qualify - (ben_tilly) - (34)
                 Maybe I do, maybe I don't - (orion) - (33)
                     If you think that you qualify... - (ben_tilly) - (8)
                         Why be proven wrong when you don't have to? -NT - (mmoffitt)
                         I have to do something first - (orion) - (6)
                             Let's just say this - (ben_tilly) - (5)
                                 You may be right - (orion) - (4)
                                     Not odd at all - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                         I may have had them at one time or thought I did - (orion) - (2)
                                             Your confidence level is your problem. - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                 Not my only problem - (orion)
                     Do you know how to obtain your SSH key? - (pwhysall) - (1)
                         Yes I do - (orion)
                     I don't want to be a meanie, Norm, but... - (pwhysall) - (21)
                         Re: I don't want to be a meanie, Norm, but... - (deSitter) - (2)
                             Uh, riiiiight. - (Yendor) - (1)
                                 Re: Uh, riiiiight. - (deSitter)
                         Oh but you are a meanie, nothing you can do about it. - (orion) - (17)
                             You've googled. - (pwhysall) - (16)
                                 tad obvious I would say :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1)
                                     To a genuine UNIX admin, yes. - (pwhysall)
                                 So you say - (orion) - (13)
                                     In that, you're almost definitely wrong - (ben_tilly) - (6)
                                         actually you can do both - (boxley) - (3)
                                             I was wondering about that... - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                                                 I should have been more specific. - (pwhysall)
                                             PAM does that too, IIRC - (admin)
                                         That is the way I do things - (orion)
                                         There are ways to actually have both. - (folkert)
                                     Norm there was enough misinformation in yer post - (boxley) - (5)
                                         There is always Misinformation in my posts - (orion) - (4)
                                             You claim you didnt lookup the answers - (boxley) - (3)
                                                 Fine if it shuts you up - (orion) - (2)
                                                     Actually you are correct. - (folkert) - (1)
                                                         I did fix my Linux problems on my own - (orion)
         Can you point to more such things? - (deSitter) - (32)
             Your public key? - (pwhysall) - (11)
                 Re: Your public key? - (deSitter) - (10)
                     You probably sent your GPG key, right? - (pwhysall) - (9)
                         (bangs head onto bed spikes) - (deSitter) - (8)
                             Patience, grasshopper. -NT - (pwhysall) - (6)
                                 Re: Patience, grasshopper. - (deSitter) - (5)
                                     I got the impression - (altmann) - (4)
                                         Hmm possible - (deSitter) - (3)
                                             So try logging in. -NT - (admin) - (2)
                                                 to what? -NT - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                     To their server - (orion)
                             That isn't how ssh works - (ben_tilly)
             Response finally showed up - (deSitter) - (17)
                 Re: Response finally showed up - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Luck Bro -NT - (boxley)
                 Stage 2 complete - (deSitter) - (13)
                     See the default Apache page here. Keep at it! :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (12)
                         FreeBSD must be great - (deSitter) - (11)
                             Still the default page from here. - (broomberg) - (10)
                                 cp index.html.en test1.html - (deSitter) - (9)
                                     Don't assume - (broomberg) - (5)
                                         ? - (deSitter) - (4)
                                             How hard to understand is that? - (broomberg)
                                             test inside the test - (cforde) - (2)
                                                 I thought of it exactly opposite - (deSitter) - (1)
                                                     If they continue not contacting you, then at least try it. -NT - (ben_tilly)
                                     Don't assume - (broomberg) - (2)
                                         seconded -NT - (boxley)
                                         Thirded. -NT - (mmoffitt)
                 have fun with that. knock'em dead -NT - (cforde)
             That one was pretty random, sorry -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1)
                 S'OK send more if you find'em - (deSitter)

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