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Post #147,927 by Another Scott 3/23/04 6:21:22 PM Reply	"Fearlessness"? Hmm. Is that really what they want? Cheers, Scott. (The public SSH key is a nice touch...)
Post #147,932 by jb4 3/23/04 6:41:28 PM Reply	Yeah, that and a digital certificate. The certificate is a new one on me...I wonder how you get one of those? jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #147,933 by admin 3/23/04 6:44:55 PM Reply	Easy peasy. man ssh-keygen Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,936 by jb4 3/23/04 6:48:35 PM 3/23/04 6:50:13 PM Reply	man?!? Just because you're "familiar with all levels of UNIX administration", doesn't mean you actually use one.... ;-) And besides, until they allow us to start up 'man' with 'less' instead of 'more', man will forever remain the vi of help! (But thanks for the info, Scott...Filed appropriately in the "When I finally get Linux lit at home" file!) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT Edited by jb4 March 23, 2004, 06:50:13 PM EST Expand All History
Post #147,937 by admin 3/23/04 6:49:16 PM Reply	Then I suspect you don't qualify anyway... ;-) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #147,938 by jb4 3/23/04 6:51:53 PM Reply	Guilty as charged.... But I'm chomping at the bit for a useful 2.6 kernel distro...so I can start prosyletising the masses to use Linux in the embedded space (where I work!). jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #147,939 by admin 3/23/04 6:53:28 PM Reply	Debian. aptitude install kernel-image-2.6-686 (or kernel-image-2.6-k7 if you have an Athlon) Regards, -scott anderson "Welcome to Rivendell, Mr. Anderson..."
Post #148,229 by jb4 3/24/04 5:15:12 PM Reply	Just found out that SuSE 9.1's got it Available in May (which is about as long as it'll take to get my wife to agree to let me spend the $90 (SMRP) on it...;-) ) And I don't mind spending money on Novell (even though the just about finished the job Micros~1 started on my beloved WordPerfect). jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #147,947 by ben_tilly 3/23/04 7:56:49 PM Reply	And we see that their filter worked Any Unix admin who won't look in a man page doesn't deserve the job. Anyone who thinks that they are familiar with all levels of Unix administration who can't set up Cygwin if they don't have Linux, probably isn't as familiar as initially claimed. And on my system, at least, man actually does use less. Not being a sysadmin, I don't know what the trick is. (Note, I'm not qualified for their job either.) But it didn't take much testing to verify that I have extensions in man that are from less... Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #147,975 by boxley 3/23/04 8:54:24 PM Reply	two implementations of man, more or less one gnu is less one Bell labs is more thanx, bill "You're just like me streak. You never left the free-fire zone.You think aspirins and meetings and cold showers are going to clean out your head. What you want is God's permission to paint the trees with the bad guys. That wont happen big mon." Clete questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #147,979 by ben_tilly 3/23/04 8:58:42 PM Reply	That makes sense "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #148,179 by Arkadiy 3/24/04 1:39:25 PM Reply	$ echo $PAGER less -R -- Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them. --Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
Post #148,190 by ben_tilly 3/24/04 2:30:51 PM Reply	That can't be it $PAGER isn't set locally. Cheers, Ben "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]
Post #148,191 by Arkadiy 3/24/04 2:48:22 PM Reply	Then you have sensible default I tried to set it to "more", and more was used. That's how things are supposed to work. PAGER, EDITOR and there probably are more. -- Less Is More. In my book, About Face, I introduce over 50 powerful design axioms. This is one of them. --Alan Cooper. The Inmates Are Running the Asylum
Post #148,232 by jb4 3/24/04 5:18:08 PM Reply	How ironic your .sig is in this thread.....giggle jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #148,231 by jb4 3/24/04 5:17:10 PM Reply	As I already admitted to Scott... ...I don't even pretend to be qualified. (Although, it would be an interesting exercise to pretend to be qualified, and find out how far I get...) jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #147,935 by broomberg 3/23/04 6:47:30 PM Reply	Deploy wireless network? Includes a climbing gym membership? Maybe EVERYONE is required to climb occasionally when deploying access points?
Post #147,949 by ben_tilly 3/23/04 8:01:58 PM Reply	ROTFL "good ideas and bad code build communities, the other three combinations do not" - [link\|http://archives.real-time.com/pipermail/cocoon-devel/2000-October/003023.html\|Stefano Mazzocchi]

One way to filter for technical people :-) - (ben_tilly) - (93) - March 23, 2004, 06:18:59 PM EST

"Fearlessness"? - (Another Scott) - (17) - March 23, 2004, 06:21:22 PM EST

Yeah, that and a digital certificate. - (jb4) - (14) - March 23, 2004, 06:41:28 PM EST

Easy peasy. - (admin) - (13) - March 23, 2004, 06:44:55 PM EST

man?!? - (jb4) - (12) - March 23, 2004, 06:50:13 PM EST

Then I suspect you don't qualify anyway... ;-) -NT - (admin) - (3) - March 23, 2004, 06:49:16 PM EST

Guilty as charged.... - (jb4) - (2) - March 23, 2004, 06:51:53 PM EST

Debian. - (admin) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 06:53:28 PM EST

Just found out that SuSE 9.1's got it - (jb4) - March 24, 2004, 05:15:12 PM EST

And we see that their filter worked - (ben_tilly) - (7) - March 23, 2004, 07:56:49 PM EST

two implementations of man, more or less - (boxley) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 08:54:24 PM EST

That makes sense -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 23, 2004, 08:58:42 PM EST

$ echo $PAGER - (Arkadiy) - (3) - March 24, 2004, 01:39:25 PM EST

That can't be it - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 02:30:51 PM EST

Then you have sensible default - (Arkadiy) - March 24, 2004, 02:48:22 PM EST

How ironic your .sig is in this thread.....**giggle** -NT - (jb4) - March 24, 2004, 05:18:08 PM EST

As I already admitted to Scott... - (jb4) - March 24, 2004, 05:17:10 PM EST

Deploy wireless network? - (broomberg) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 06:47:30 PM EST

ROTFL -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 23, 2004, 08:01:58 PM EST

Is this for real? - (deSitter) - (1) - March 23, 2004, 08:17:25 PM EST

Unless the position is already filled, it should be real - (ben_tilly) - March 23, 2004, 08:58:08 PM EST

would look into it but - (boxley) - March 23, 2004, 08:57:17 PM EST

Could also be. . . - (morganek) - (2) - March 23, 2004, 10:04:52 PM EST

Go through process.... - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 01:49:02 AM EST

Sent my pubkey - no response -NT - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 11:54:06 AM EST

Hhhmmmmmmm - (orion) - (35) - March 23, 2004, 10:19:43 PM EST

You don't qualify - (ben_tilly) - (34) - March 23, 2004, 10:46:43 PM EST

Maybe I do, maybe I don't - (orion) - (33) - March 24, 2004, 10:21:51 AM EST

If you think that you qualify... - (ben_tilly) - (8) - March 24, 2004, 11:04:14 AM EST

Why be proven wrong when you don't have to? -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 24, 2004, 11:08:07 AM EST

I have to do something first - (orion) - (6) - March 24, 2004, 05:04:43 PM EST

Let's just say this - (ben_tilly) - (5) - March 24, 2004, 05:22:10 PM EST

You may be right - (orion) - (4) - March 24, 2004, 07:54:06 PM EST

Not odd at all - (ben_tilly) - (3) - March 24, 2004, 09:32:51 PM EST

I may have had them at one time or thought I did - (orion) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 11:48:33 PM EST

Your confidence level is your problem. - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 25, 2004, 02:34:24 PM EST

Not my only problem - (orion) - March 25, 2004, 06:46:49 PM EST

Do you know how to obtain your SSH key? - (pwhysall) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 11:51:29 AM EST

Yes I do - (orion) - March 24, 2004, 05:01:27 PM EST

I don't want to be a meanie, Norm, but... - (pwhysall) - (21) - March 24, 2004, 12:03:17 PM EST

Re: I don't want to be a meanie, Norm, but... - (deSitter) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 12:08:10 PM EST

Uh, riiiiight. - (Yendor) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 12:22:07 PM EST

Re: Uh, riiiiight. - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 12:28:24 PM EST

Oh but you are a meanie, nothing you can do about it. - (orion) - (17) - March 24, 2004, 05:21:52 PM EST

You've googled. - (pwhysall) - (16) - March 24, 2004, 05:48:12 PM EST

tad obvious I would say :-) -NT - (boxley) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 06:04:30 PM EST

To a genuine UNIX admin, yes. - (pwhysall) - March 24, 2004, 06:07:38 PM EST

So you say - (orion) - (13) - March 24, 2004, 07:57:58 PM EST

In that, you're almost definitely wrong - (ben_tilly) - (6) - March 24, 2004, 09:26:27 PM EST

actually you can do both - (boxley) - (3) - March 24, 2004, 09:30:18 PM EST

I was wondering about that... - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 09:36:54 PM EST

I should have been more specific. - (pwhysall) - March 25, 2004, 01:57:09 AM EST

PAM does that too, IIRC - (admin) - March 24, 2004, 10:50:56 PM EST

That is the way I do things - (orion) - March 24, 2004, 11:55:04 PM EST

There are ways to actually have both. - (folkert) - March 25, 2004, 08:22:18 PM EST

Norm there was enough misinformation in yer post - (boxley) - (5) - March 24, 2004, 09:26:54 PM EST

There is always Misinformation in my posts - (orion) - (4) - March 24, 2004, 11:56:37 PM EST

You claim you didnt lookup the answers - (boxley) - (3) - March 25, 2004, 08:23:11 AM EST

Fine if it shuts you up - (orion) - (2) - March 25, 2004, 06:43:29 PM EST

Actually you are correct. - (folkert) - (1) - March 25, 2004, 08:30:20 PM EST

I did fix my Linux problems on my own - (orion) - April 4, 2004, 12:24:51 PM EDT

Can you point to more such things? - (deSitter) - (32) - March 24, 2004, 05:53:25 PM EST

Your public key? - (pwhysall) - (11) - March 24, 2004, 06:00:22 PM EST

Re: Your public key? - (deSitter) - (10) - March 24, 2004, 06:11:23 PM EST

You probably sent your GPG key, right? - (pwhysall) - (9) - March 24, 2004, 06:12:18 PM EST

(bangs head onto bed spikes) - (deSitter) - (8) - March 24, 2004, 06:14:58 PM EST

Patience, grasshopper. -NT - (pwhysall) - (6) - March 24, 2004, 06:17:03 PM EST

Re: Patience, grasshopper. - (deSitter) - (5) - March 24, 2004, 06:27:56 PM EST

I got the impression - (altmann) - (4) - March 24, 2004, 06:33:08 PM EST

Hmm possible - (deSitter) - (3) - March 24, 2004, 06:43:22 PM EST

So try logging in. -NT - (admin) - (2) - March 24, 2004, 07:01:34 PM EST

to what? -NT - (deSitter) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 07:35:04 PM EST

To their server - (orion) - March 24, 2004, 07:56:28 PM EST

That isn't how ssh works - (ben_tilly) - March 24, 2004, 09:12:07 PM EST

Response finally showed up - (deSitter) - (17) - March 24, 2004, 08:43:22 PM EST

Re: Response finally showed up - (deSitter) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 08:45:53 PM EST

Luck Bro -NT - (boxley) - March 24, 2004, 09:31:55 PM EST

Stage 2 complete - (deSitter) - (13) - March 24, 2004, 10:27:32 PM EST

See the default Apache page here. Keep at it! :-) -NT - (Another Scott) - (12) - March 24, 2004, 10:34:31 PM EST

FreeBSD must be great - (deSitter) - (11) - March 24, 2004, 10:47:32 PM EST

Still the default page from here. - (broomberg) - (10) - March 25, 2004, 07:03:02 AM EST

cp index.html.en test1.html - (deSitter) - (9) - March 25, 2004, 08:53:40 AM EST

Don't assume - (broomberg) - (5) - March 25, 2004, 07:12:58 PM EST

? - (deSitter) - (4) - March 25, 2004, 07:40:39 PM EST

How hard to understand is that? - (broomberg) - March 25, 2004, 10:13:47 PM EST

test inside the test - (cforde) - (2) - March 26, 2004, 02:49:16 AM EST

I thought of it exactly opposite - (deSitter) - (1) - March 26, 2004, 04:16:04 AM EST

If they continue not contacting you, then at least try it. -NT - (ben_tilly) - March 26, 2004, 02:57:53 PM EST

Don't assume - (broomberg) - (2) - March 25, 2004, 07:13:18 PM EST

seconded -NT - (boxley) - March 25, 2004, 07:57:28 PM EST

Thirded. -NT - (mmoffitt) - March 26, 2004, 11:55:07 AM EST

have fun with that. knock'em dead -NT - (cforde) - March 25, 2004, 12:50:24 PM EST

That one was pretty random, sorry -NT - (ben_tilly) - (1) - March 24, 2004, 09:13:45 PM EST

S'OK send more if you find'em - (deSitter) - March 24, 2004, 09:32:03 PM EST

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