Is this one worth going through?

Post #14,790 by drewk 10/23/01 12:05:08 PM Reply	Is this one worth going through? I found a [link\|http://www.cs.rice.edu/~shriram/311/Lectures/all.html\|link] to a class at Rice. The lectures go through design of a complete language to demonstrate various points, then shows in the end why the developed language still falls short of useful. If I get the time, I may go through it just to get a taste of "real school learnin'", but I don't want to waste my time. If anyone wants to skim it and give me an opinion -- is it worthwhile real-world or is it too ivory-tower -- I'd really appreciate it. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #14,791 by ChrisR 10/23/01 12:18:19 PM Reply	Geared towards Scheme... ...which is a worthwhile endeavor if you want to learn the fundamentals of programming language design, or are interested in Functional Programming. Dr. Scheme was also developed by the guys at Rice and is a great environment for learning the language. That said, it's kind of the long way around learning object oriented programming. Scheme is a derivative of lisp and is very flexible. It can support [link\|http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/cus/shapes/scheme.html\|OO polymorphism] but it's not one of the better OOP languages - CLOS, Smalltalk, or Eiffel are better candidates. Anyhow, the Scheme stuff is fantastic if you've got time to delve into the intricacies of the profession. If your just trying to get a handle on OOP, though, it's kind of a long road.
Post #14,807 by drewk 10/23/01 3:19:27 PM Reply	Did seem pretty disconnected from my "real world" I see your point about learning to write languages, though. Interesting field, I'm sure, but not one I particularly care to try out. We have to fight the terrorists as if there were no rules and preserve our open society as if there were no terrorists. -- [link\|http://www.nytimes.com/2001/04/05/opinion/BIO-FRIEDMAN.html\|Thomas Friedman]
Post #14,968 by Arkadiy 10/24/01 1:07:55 PM Reply	I'll be going through it for sure. "Everything you needed to learn in (Russian)college about Lisp, but never did"
Post #15,774 by Arkadiy 10/30/01 4:38:05 PM Reply	I was wrong. This site is one big huge teaser. Where do I find a good web site/book to learn lisp? I mean real list, the one that produces this kind of code: (define lookup (lambda (Var Env Fk) (Env Var Fk))) (define mt-env (lambda () (lambda (Var Fk) (Fk)))) (define extend (lambda (Env VarN Val) (lambda (name Fk) (if (eq? name VarN) \tVal \t(Env name Fk))))) Any suggestions?
Post #15,793 by ChrisR 10/30/01 6:48:20 PM Reply	SICP The classic text for Scheme is [link\|http://mitpress.mit.edu/sicp/full-text/sicp/book/book.html\|Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs]
Post #15,819 by ben_tilly 10/30/01 10:46:47 PM Reply	If you want Common Lisp... Paul Graham has a couple of [link\|http://www.paulgraham.com/paulgraham/books.html\|very good books] on the topic. The one labelled more advanced, is. Though I found both quite readable. Cheers, Ben

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