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New Salary is not negotiable
One cannot improve their odds of getting hired by accepting 20k a year for IT.
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New Exactly
There is never any opportunity to negotiate - it's damned insane. You can't even offer to work for free or on a trial basis. Does this tell you something? The work isn't worth doing and has no negotiable value.
-drl
New Adam Smith takes vacations
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     Long term umemployment rises 300 percent 2000 -> 2003 - (deSitter) - (33)
         They're not stealing your jobs. - (pwhysall) - (29)
             H word again - (deSitter) - (1)
                 Never happen. - (pwhysall)
             Salary is not negotiable - (tablizer) - (2)
                 Exactly - (deSitter) - (1)
                     Adam Smith takes vacations -NT - (tablizer)
             Of course they aren't stealing our jobs - (orion) - (23)
                 Correction. - (inthane-chan) - (22)
                     In other parts of the world - (orion) - (21)
                         If $2 is a princely sum in Brownpeepulistan... - (pwhysall) - (20)
                             Precisely. - (mmoffitt) - (1)
                                 Rejoinder! - (pwhysall)
                             I beg to differ - (orion) - (17)
                                 Monitoring employees - (ChrisR) - (2)
                                     When it's done in secret - (deSitter)
                                     There are laws and issues on that very thing - (orion)
                                 Re-read my post in context of what matters to Corp USA. -NT - (pwhysall) - (13)
                                     What Corp USA thinks is irrelevant - (orion) - (12)
                                         You're quite charmingly naive, Norman. -NT - (pwhysall) - (11)
                                             You are quite close-minded Peter - (orion) - (10)
                                                 Point = missed. -NT - (pwhysall) - (5)
                                                     Point == Null - (orion) - (4)
                                                         ? - (pwhysall) - (3)
                                                             Let us review, shall we? - (orion) - (2)
                                                                 Re: Let us review, shall we? - Yes, lets - (jake123)
                                                                 Norm, this link might help - (boxley)
                                                 Peter is right, you missed the point - (ben_tilly) - (3)
                                                     The shortest, clearest summary ever. Thank you. -NT - (Arkadiy)
                                                     One little tiny correction for you... - (inthane-chan) - (1)
                                                         I'm not sure how that one will play out... - (ben_tilly)
         That is the flip side of being in a "protected class". - (a6l6e6x) - (2)
             Bullsh*t - (deSitter) - (1)
                 Note the quotes around protected class. - (a6l6e6x)

You're typing on a device that stores trillions of pieces of data and makes billions of computations per second with the ability to grab data on almost anything from around the world in milliseconds, using electricity transmitted from hundreds of kilometers through wires on towers dozens of meters tall connected to megastructures that do things like burn coal as fast as entire trains can pull into the yard, or spin in the wind with blades the size of jumbo jets, or the like, which were delivered to their location by vehicles with computer-timed engines burning a fuel that was pumped up halfway around the world from up to half a dozen kilometers underground and locked into complex strata (through wells drilled by diamond-lined bores that can be remote-control steered as they go), shipped around the world in tankers with volumes the size of large city blocks and the height of apartment complexes, run through complex chemical processes in unimaginable quantities, distributed nationwide and sold to you at a corner store for $1.80 a gallon, which you then pay for with a little piece of microchipped plastic, if not a smartphone, which does all of the aforementioned computer stuff but in a box the size of your hand that tolerates getting beaten up in your pocket all day.

But technology never seems to advance...


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