Au contraire, mon frere...

Post #144,648 by danreck 3/5/04 2:47:51 PM 3/5/04 3:55:01 PM Reply	Au contraire, mon frere... You screed: the odds just Have to be better with any old OTHER_THAN: a present full cockup. As in: yes, any One of the 'Demo' half of the Republicrat One Party (or unelectable Nader) only could offer at least a chance.. whereas there is 0 chance of repairing the Shrub damage to all relations with other countries, not to mention PATRIOT and all the fumbled at-home matters needing brains, not divisive slogans and the politico-marketing of Fear/Persimmon-coloured. Check out that 9/11 ad yet? That "repair the damage to all relations with other countries" strawman is what you are hanging your hat on. Listen: you are naive. The business of government is to perpetuate the government. It should survive long after you or I have been planted back into the soil. The naive "old hippy shit" Clinton style lassez faire bullshit foreign policy is what led to 9/11. Other countries "loved us" then because they perceived us as weak - as all talk. They forget that we are the only nation in history to have actually USED a weapon of mass destruction on Japan. I suppose the world loved us then too? Sorry, Ashton, no sale... Which vote of Kerry's in the senate shows that he wasn't just another Clinton/Bush ass clown? An integral piece of the cabal that you rail against? You see the glass as half empty, I see it as shattered. Talk about mindless screeds and slogans. Pot/kettle/black... I did see the Bush add. It is all well and good that SOMEONE remind "we the fucking people" that it ain't time for bness as usual with our God epluribus. If it takes them showing footage of the folks diving from the top floors all the way to the ground to make them get out of their narcisistic self-denial of who they are, what happened on 9/11, and what ain't over yet, I hope someone shows that too. Hey, Kerry, let's just bury our collective fucking heads back on our old hedonistic lifestyles "you better off now" mindless rhetoric. Shit, after a few years, they'll put new buildings up and we'll be right back to trying to one up eachother on the nicest UAV - and forget about all those poor people who died in a couple of office buildings in New York City. After all, it is the economy, stupid... Didn't we put a plaque up somewhere? The ads are only painful to those who are in denial of what happened and why. Your axe belongs to a dying nation, breath the air we have blown you. Ass clown. Just a few thoughts, Danno Edited by danreck March 5, 2004, 03:55:01 PM EST Au contraire, mon frere... You screed: the odds just Have to be better with any old OTHER_THAN: a present full cockup. As in: yes, any One of the 'Demo' half of the Republicrat One Party (or unelectable Nader) only could offer at least a chance.. whereas there is 0 chance of repairing the Shrub damage to all relations with other countries, not to mention PATRIOT and all the fumbled at-home matters needing brains, not divisive slogans and the politico-marketing of Fear/Persimmon-coloured. Check out that 9/11 ad yet? That "repair the damage to all relations with other countries" strawman is what you are hanging your hat on. Listen: you are naive. The business of government is to perpetuate the government. It should survive long after you or I have been planted back into the soil. The naive "old hippy shit" Clinton style lassez faire bullshit foreign policy is what led to 9/11. Other countries "loved us" then because they perceived us as weak - as all talk. They forget that we are the only nation in history to have actually USED a weapon of mass destruction on Japan. I suppose the world loved us then too? Sorry, Ashton, no sale... Which vote of Kerry's in the senate shows that he wasn't just another Clinton/Bush ass clown? An integral piece of the cabal that you rail against? You see the glass as half empty, I see it as shattered. Talk about mindless screeds and slogans. Pot/kettle/black... I did see the Bush add. It is all well and good that SOMEONE remind "we the fucking people" that it ain't time for bness as usual with our God epluribus. If it takes them showing footage of the folks diving from the top floors all the way to the ground to make them get out of their narcisistic self-denial of who they are, what happened on 9/11, and what ain't over yet, I hope someone shows that too. Hey, Kerry, let's just bury our collective fucking heads back on our old hedonistic lifestyles "you better off now" mindless rhetoric. Shit, after a few years, they'll put new buildings up and we'll be right back to trying to one up eachother on the nicest UAV - and forget about all those poor people who died in a couple of office buildings in New York City. After all, it is the economy, stupid... Didn't we put a plaque up somewhere? The ads are only painful to those who are in denial of what happened and why. Your axe belongs to a dying nation, breath the air we have blown you. Just a few thoughts, Danno Collapse All History
Post #144,662 by Ashton 3/5/04 4:41:32 PM Reply	We kill 40,000 \ufffd a year just in cars It's claimed that 100K/yr more die via misdiagnosis via Med Corp mavens. The US Civil War allegedly did a 9/11 EVERY WEEK. Who's talking about what real TRAGEDY might taste like? Pshaw. Perspective.. don't leave the fundraiser without it. Oh.. instant videoed death is worth more than All Other more gradual annual tolls? You're too young to join My Gramma and start looking forward to each new issue of Human Events. You're already hyped for Universal flak-jackets, including kiddie-sized. I've seen that before (you were born). Same old. So if what you want is to PARLAY that "muscle flex" at Hiroshima {Big Bad Don't-Fuck-with Uncle Sam} mindset the same-old same-old Way: (Only this time, all alone) - as we emulate Israel with military solutions to the legions of new US-Haters this policy creates, via the dead relatives of each of the 'collaterally damaged' - - If that's what you want, bunky -?- why strut along there, General Pandemonium and all the little tads, perky little Vengeance and the sullen Suicide-twins with-nothing-to-lose. Gentlemen, Start Your Calculators! Come see the Collossus of the World, 1014 Feet Tall - do battle with millions of Brobdignagians: All By Hisself. <<< Strength Through Joy Oceania VS {whomever} Win This One for The Gipper But on this course you find so attractive, for the eventual subornment of all Non-US Sin in the World into Our Style Sin - remember those nukes on order - and Why they were ordered and Who shall be deciding to unleash same. And for how long. And what the response to that use is apt to be. (Of course, we could just Be Safe - and nuke 'em all; after all, like Saddam: any One of Them __might__ someday Turn On Us. Who needs any more excuse than that?) And notice.. as the doors close tighter on Fortress America, as orchestrated maudlin Fear starts curdling the milk and the arrests begin for opposing {almost any aspect}. Then: we'll have another of these Firestorm Chats, OK? Encrypted, of course, until the Fatherland Security patrol cracks the discussion. Meanwhile: Eight More Months of this crap and daily 9/11 FLASH-injections -- now what, again, happened to the Inquiry ABOUT that 9/11, whose replay is to keep The Pot Boiling? Minor stuff, that - let's just Emote; screw the cerebral (like Adlai) -- obv you're becoming a Traditionalist in that regard, too Yeh, I Hate these pre-holocaust faux-election periods! Too... too much reminder of how near the mouth of the cave, despite the transistorized Soma and electric guitars. Peace. er War! I meant War, Mr. A.G. Honest. Age and treachery will always overcome youth and skill Ah.. even treacherous suicidal youth; lots of them? at The Great Mall??
Post #144,666 by danreck 3/5/04 5:03:20 PM Reply	Okay, so now you know... That I have just been trying to find a way to use my favorite new word/phrase "ass clown" as much as possible... It would even make a good Jabber title page... ;-) Can we just agree to agree on one thing... Adlai Stevenson should have been elected, damn it. And as always, you are ever the optimist, moy droog... And, ass clown that I am, I still feel that in a democracy, I still have the right to vote for the best man for the job (even if he's no longer with us)... C'est la vie... Just a few thoughts, Danno
Post #144,667 by Ashton 3/5/04 5:22:47 PM Reply	In Wish-space: we vote together for Adlai - and rewrite the sordid 20th Century! I'll shoot-up to That.. (hey - opposing Bush ain't about appeasing deranged Fundies or pretending we can just walk away from Iraqmess du jour; it's about a better strategy than This Droid's - Mr. Ash Clown. Neither you nor I can know what Kerry might do with the power; we Know what Shrub did. And we both Know: You can't GET! Adlai-grade through Our System, Nohow - idgit ;-) :-0
Post #144,670 by jb4 3/5/04 6:03:39 PM Reply	Re: Au contraire, mon frere... You pass the following gas: The naive "old hippy shit" Clinton style lassez faire bullshit foreign policy is what led to 9/11. What pap! As if these fanatics wouldn't have attempted this if Poppy or Mr. Viagra had won! Such complete manure! Look, there are basically two reasons why 9/11 happened: 1) A Muslim fanatic with way too much money got pissed that the Infidels (that us, Jack) sent troops to The Holy Land\ufffd at the request of the Head Weenie of that selfsame Land\ufffd; furthermore, we had the Satanic Audacity to send wimmen to that land...without bhurkas or veils or anyovthatstuff. And they do Man-like things, to boot! Oh... the Horror! Who was in charge of sending the Infidels of the Great Satan to occupy their infernal Holy Land\ufffd? Hint: Wasn't Clinton... Oh, yeah... it was Poppy! 2) Said Muslim Fanatic sent his minion to the US to "train" for the Ultimate Sacrifice (w/ Virigns, Paradise, and all the trimmings). You know, we actually did know they were here, and doing all sorts of wierdball things; like, learning to fly without bothering to learn to land or take off, for example. It's been documented that the folks who discovered this did try to report this wierdball behavior to their "superiors", but along the Information Highway, that bus got shuttled of onto a rest stop, and was never allowed to get back on. After all, the wierdball things were being done by citizens of The Holy Land\ufffd, and summarily drubbing said wierdballs out of the country would have been bad for the [oil] trade. Who was in charge of sending that bus onto that rest stop? Hint: Wasn't Clinton... Oh yeah...It was Poppy's kid, Duh-bahyew! Hmmmmmm.... jb4 shrub\ufffdbish (Am., from shrub* + rubbish, after the derisive name for America's 43 president; 2003) n. 1. a form of nonsensical political doubletalk wherein the speaker attempts to defend the indefensible by lying, obfuscation, or otherwise misstating that facts; GIBBERISH. 2. any of a collection of utterances from America's putative 43rd president. cf.* BULLSHIT
Post #144,700 by boxley 3/5/04 9:27:43 PM Reply	yeah if Bush was pres in 1999 which I recall he wasnt check a few of the dates in this court case, ol hippy dippy hisself was in charge [link\|http://www.justice-denied.net/strong_against_the_weak.htm\|http://www.justice-d...inst_the_weak.htm] thanx, bill when I was young I envisioned myself as the embodiment of Trinity, Now I realize I have turned into the Bambino questions, help? [link\|mailto:pappas@catholic.org\|email pappas at catholic.org]
Post #144,726 by mmoffitt 3/6/04 9:34:41 AM Reply	Go back a few years before that. And, ... if Bush had been in office in 1999, maybe the first Al Qaeda attempt (bombs to LAX to "celebrate" the 1/1/2000 events) would have been successful. :-p bcnu, Mikem I don't do third world languages. So no, I don't do Java.

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