I saw it happen

Post #14,316 by tablizer 10/20/01 2:43:55 PM Reply	I saw it happen >> You're seriously telling me that corporate networks don't allow Citrix ICA traffic through - as a matter of policy? << Here is the deal. I contracted at a place that sent sales leads to hundreds of businesses. They used VB with Cytrix. Enough of those 100+ "consumers" of the data complained that either their firewall would not let the information through, or they did not have the staff to troubleshoot/change/approve the firewall problems. (Some customers were big and some were small.) It was a big enough complaint that the data distributor (the place I contracted at) decided to make a web-based version using Java. (Coordinating Java certs was a major pain, and was not yet fully solved by that developer when my stint was up. They used Java because they wanted a decent grid and HTML didn't give it. But that is another story. Personally IMO they didn't think it through enough.) The customer is always right and enuf customers complained about Cytrix and the firewalls. ________________ oop.ismad.com
Post #14,319 by bepatient 10/20/01 2:49:47 PM Reply	Get a room guys... You were born...and so you're free...so Happy Birthday! _{Laurie Anderson} [link\|mailto:bepatient@aol.com\|BePatient]
Post #14,322 by pwhysall 10/20/01 3:09:14 PM Reply	And that proves what? That some people don't see a business benefit for using Citrix products? You, as a contractor, know precisely bugger all about the reasoning behind the rejection of Citrix products as a solution. Get real. The fact that some of these clients were small leads me to think that it was primarily rejected on cost grounds. It's feary expensive stuff. Small clients also see the cost and go "no, we're not modifying our budget plans^W^Wfirewall for that". If there's a business need for poking a hole in the firewall, it will be done. no amount of raving that you do will change that. Remember, Microsoft recently bought one of the most popular accounting packages, Great Plains - this is one of the most common ICA applications. There's a remote GUI solution that kicks SCGUI's ass off the map. It's called Java. Or it's called JavaScript. Take your pick, SCGUI does NOT solve any problems. YOU can't throw a VB app onto my Linux computer. Citrix Metaframe can do that. Until you can run your SCGUI thing on more than one platform, you're just not in Metaframe's league. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]
Post #14,323 by pwhysall 10/20/01 3:13:17 PM Reply	One last thing I've finally grown tired of trying to impart clues to you. That was my last post on the subject - it's quite clear you're not interesting in learning anything, only arguing. Peter Shill For Hire [link\|http://www.kuro5hin.org\|There is no K5 Cabal]

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